Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[ouidjat]

Not same picture ...

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Indeed, not the same picture, but the same machine..

On another note, anybody got ideas as to where and which unit the WNF built Bf 109 G-10 belonged to?. Given its white outlined numerals, I suggest a NAGr, without being sure of it...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Thanks for your inputs
Marc

[S Sheflin]

Hi Marc,

I believe that the photo you attached of an Fw190 and Bf109G-10 13+ - Black was taken at Neubiberg. I’m going out on a limb here, but my research suggests that 13+ - was one of two Erla-built Bf109G-10s last serving with JGr.300 and surrendered there.

The other example is 6+ - Yellow (outlined in black), which clearly sports that unit’s blue/white/blue RV bands and short black II.Gruppe bar. In the photos I have of 10+ - Black, its black II.Gruppe bar is apparent, while its blue/white/blue RV bands are indistinct. I chalk this up to the fact that the blue/white/blue RV bands were not particularly high contrast to begin with, and that by the time the photo was taken in 1946, the aircraft has sat outside for over one year.

JGr.300 or not, they are almost certainly not from II./JG52. Without exception, II./JG52 Bf109s featured small black, white or yellow numerals and short II.Gruppe bars.

Steve Sheflin

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Indeed, not the same picture, but the same machine..

Hi Marc,

???

Of course the same machine, but not the same picture, where we cannot see the interesting part ... What an evidence!

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi Steve,

You're breaking new ground here! Until now, I had as a reference Anders Hjørtsberg's statement this pic was taken at Kassel-Waldau, unit unknown. The background barracks do look familiar with other Neubiberg pics indeed.

As for the plane itself, it has the characteristic low-spine camouflage line of either Erla or WNF produced Bf 109 G-10's. The plain underwing Balkenkreuz does point though to either an WNF or a Mtt built machine. Lots of uncertainties here, also compounded by the tactical markings as well: the low contrast white outlined "13" could be consistent with a NAG machine too, and we're deprived on this shot from any clear indication what the fuselage colors were behind the fuselage Balkenkreuz.... A really tantalizing plane indeed.

Thanks so much for your input, hoping that further details will emerge so we can pinpoint that particular G-10!

Cheers
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks to David Litton, over on facebook.com, We have again an interesting - for me - new case:

www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/15281954402/

Could "Schwarze 2" be an elusive Erla built Bf 109 K-4 ? Which possible unit ?

Thanks in advance!
Marc

[ouidjat]

Hi Marc, Link doesn't work

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Correct, Franck: in the mean tim, and thanks to a lead from Anders, I tracked back the culprit: Fw. Willy Rühl, 14./JG 300 ;-)

Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 2", Lt. Willy Rühl, 14./JG 300, Reinsdorf, early March 1945. Source: Lorant et Goyat 2005, p. 212.
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11465698265

Cheers
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there Gang,

Hi there Gang,

This one is pretty baffling for me:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Deut-Jagdflug...item4d2465e7e1

A very interesting III./JG 77 machine, which at first sight I would have passed as an early Bf 109 G....But beware! Erla Haube and late III./JG 77 Wolf emblem... Seems thus to be an Erla built G-6/AS or G-14/AS, IMHO. Any ideas as to when and where (Wien-Seyring, August 1944 (?).

Cheers
Marc

[Charles Bavarois]

To #736

Hello Marc,

no K-4, but rather a regular B f109 F. You can see the middle part of the three-piece canopy with a narrow framing and also the slim and tall antenna-mast on top of the fuselage. No trace of the FuG 16 ZY wip-antenna under the wing. Using a little photoshoping, you may also recognize the old style Balkenkreuz on top of the left wing with a black-colored center.

CRL