List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

[Dénes Bernád]

Gentlemen, please consider that the DB 605 engine was also produced in Italy. It's missing from the list.

[schwarze-man]

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád

Gentlemen, please consider that the DB 605 engine was also produced in Italy. It's missing from the list.

Yes, I have Fiat production at 334 DB605. The only engine ID I have is the restored Aer Macchi MC205 Veltro at Varese. This is listed with "Fiat Mercedes Benz DB605A 76679". I would be interested in any other info on the Fiat production. Cheers

SM

[S Sheflin]

Hi Schwarze-man,
The only reference I have to Fiat-built DB 605’s is from CEA 268. It lists Bf109G-6/R2 (WNr. 230500), marked 65+, as being found crashed on 45/03/30 NE of “Grave.” It was powered by DB 605 A-1 (MNr. 46773) and designated as being built by Fiat.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

[schwarze-man]

Thank you Steve, that is good info. Apparently, two FIAT DB605 with what seems to be German production numbering. Not impossible that DB gave the numbers to their licensee to use. You might see I have asked on another thread about Macchi 202/205 engines, to try for any more info. On the subject of the Alfa-Romeo DB601, I have worked on one, very nicely made. Cheers

SM

[he219research]

On a side note: are we only discussing DB605 production during the war?
The DB605B was also produced under license here in Sweden just after the war: IIRC production at Bolinder-Munktell and Svenska Flygmotor AB started during the autumn of 1945 and continued until 1948 (this was for the pusher-fighter J21 and the bombers B18B & T18B).
Total production was 800 engines, with serial numbers 2001-2800.

In addition to this we bought a number of German-produced DB605B engines, before production of the improved/corrected variant began here in Sweden.

EDIT (after checking my references):
The initial procurement of German-manufactured engines was made in April, 1943, and consisted of 71 DB605B engines along with VDM propellers and accessories.
The Swedish production (800 units) of the DB605B was split between Bolinder-Munktell (>100 engines) in Eskilstuna, and Svenska Flygmotor AB (<700 engines) in Trollhättan.

[schwarze-man]

Yes 219, I found similar numbers and production details in an online article. I also have the details about the Swedish production standard engines. These are very close in almost every detail to the mid 1943 production DB605B-1. The similarity is so close that I presume the production tooling and the casting moulds were initially supplied by DB. The engine details such as the fuel pumps and magneto etc, seem to be the original German parts, although it is possible that these were also produced. Although the installation of the 605 in Swedish aircraft was specific to the Swedish aircraft, the engine remained, very much, the 1943 DB605, with very minor differences. For instance, there is no provision for the (mid 1944 onwards) MW50 system, the supercharger is the standard 605A/B and, there is no Olschlueder. The later 1944 DB605D differences do not seem to make any appearance in the construction of the post war production engines. In fact, the Swedes are recorded as being very interested in the DB605D engine of a late BF109G/K that flew to Sweden at the end of the war. Members might be interested in one technical difference that is fully detailed in the Swedish 605 manual. The specification for B4 type fuel, 1.42ata/2800U/min/1475PS power is standard. However, if operated on Allied Avgas 100/130, the Boost pressure regulator could be adjusted to give 1.65ata/2800U/min/1700PS. There were no other changes to achieve this power rating. Cheers

SM

[Dénes Bernád]

Does someone know who was the manufacturer of DB 605A-1 engines whose W.Nr. is in the 80xxx format?
Finally, a long shot - but most important topic for me. The Rumanian I.A.R. Works at Brasov planned to build the DB 605A-1 engine in licence in 1944/1945. Is this factory mentioned in any production plans? Is the planned Werknummer block assigned to it known?

[S Sheflin]

Hello Dénes,
Regarding DB 605 A-1’s manufactured with Motornummern from within the 80xxx series, so far I only have seven:

80238, 80395, 81112, 81242, 81429, 81436, 81436

I show these as being built by Daimler-Benz Motoren, Genshagen Kreis Teltow. One of them, 81112, is confirmed by a Typenschild.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

[Dénes Bernád]

A nice post-war photo of a DB 605 engine starting with 011...

[HGabor]

Hi folks,
I have found two more engine numbers which are listed below:

1) Fw. Brechtl, Josef / 7./JG.54 / Bf 109G-2 (+2 blau) / WNr. 13666 / Engine# 35669 / 6.1.1943 /

2) Fw. Schütz, Willy / 6./JG.52 / Bf 109G-2 (+11 gelb) / WNr. 13674 / Engine# 77496 / 1.12.1943 /

enjoy

Gabor