Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[Rasmussen]

Then it's an Mtt. G-14/AS because Erla G-14/AS hadn't the chin bulges...

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Rasmussen

Then it's an Mtt. G-14/AS because Erla G-14/AS hadn't the chin bulges...

Thanks Rasmussen !

So we have now both type and manufacture now pinpointed. W.Nr. and location would sum up our knowledge for this particular plane.

Cheers
Marc

[S Sheflin]

Hello everyone,
Regarding the Werknummer of the Bf 109 G shown in Post #968 and further, I thought I had already added a comment, but apparently not.
Having carefully read all posts involved, I am left with the question of why the mysterious third digit cannot be the upper portion of a “two?”
WNrn. of 4608xx, there are no examples that I know of.
The third digit is clearly not a “1,” “4,” or a “5,” so 461xxx, 464xxx and 465xxx are out.
That leaves WNr. 462861, which falls nicely within a large number of Erla-Leipzig-built Bf 109 G-14’s. Supporting this idea is the condensed font style and position of application, both of which are very Erla-Leipzig-built-like.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

[Rasmussen]

But ... is there enough space for a "46"?

[S Sheflin]

Hello Rasmussen,
Yes I believe there is enough room. I should have been precise when I mentioned the font and method of application.
Erla used a font that was compressed, meaning that it was tall and thin.
I have numerous photos of Erla-Leipzig-built Bf109s in which the first or last numerals of the Werknummern are spang up against the leading edge of their fins.
In some cases, this closeness manifests itself in the leading digit partially wrapping around the leading-edge of the fin.
This form of application seems to be the rule rather than the exception on the 46xxxx family of Bf 109 G-14’s.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

[Marc-André Haldimann]

By courtesy of Mato Lion, over on Late war Bf 109's group, FB, two new photos of the often photographed Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 783 906 "Gelbe 8", 3./JG 4 have emerged:

https://archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/s...O443i9GIbGEYL0

On the caption written on the back of this photo, location is said to be Eisfeld near Coburg, Germany. The other photos of W.Nr. 783 906 are said to be taken at Ennsfeld in Hideki Noro "LO+ST", p. 172. Actually this does not seem correct as there were no know Lw actitivites or landing fields there.

Finally, one US Signal Corps photo showing another Mtt built Bf 109 G-14/AS "Gelbe 6", also of 3./JG 4, was offered for sale in May 2014 with a caption saying it was taken at Eisenach-Kindel, near Gotha:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...-cgZNxC-91EvHc

To my knowledge, I./JG 4 was last stationed at Berlin-Schönfeld until disbandment on 19 March 1945. What happened afterwards ? Were was actually photographed both W.Nr. 783 906 "Gelbe 8" and "Gelbe 6" which are seen in the same landscape ?

Thanks in advance.

[ouidjat]

.... And it's not a G-14/AS ?

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks to Spektor, over on modelforum.cz, this very interesting Russian photo found on this page:
http://soviet-aces-1936-53.ru/abc/t/tomarev.htm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...in/dateposted/

This photo shows Maksim Nikolajevič Tomarev standing in front of what I believe to be a WNF built Bf 109 G-10 with a JG 4 emblem on the cowling. Thus, "Gelbe 11" sporting the vertical bar of III. Gruppe should be a 11./JG 4 machine. I miss though the Black-white-black colours RVB band.

Location for this photo could be Jüterbog-Damm where III./JG 4 was stationed until 2 April 1945, or nearby Mark Zwuschen (III./JG 4 was there until 12 April 1945). Both airfields were taken 20 April 1945 by Red Army units.

Any thoughts ?
Marc

[sgeorges4]

some interesting picture in this russian review http://scalemodels.ru/articles/10880...9G-6-late.html

[Marc-André Haldimann]

A photo of a plane without known record - at least to me:

Mtt built Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. probably 163 041, painted in tall numbers across the tail swastika, like W.Nr. 163 824 currently preserved at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. Location is unknown location, Spring 1945. Any information would be highly appreciated.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Photo-...cAAOSwvFlfL-sV

Cheers
Marc