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Old 15th March 2005, 23:32
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Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

Hi,
Can anybody be good enough to supply information regarding losses from
KG26 on the following dates.

8.5.41 4x He111H's lost during ops to Suez area from II/ KG26

20.5.41 2X He111H's lost during ops to attack Heraklion Arfd, both from 6/KG26.

Any help would be most appreciated, particularly with the W.Nr's!

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Old 18th March 2005, 21:48
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

Details are as follow
5 41 KG26 3 8 XFK 4 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3870 1H+BC 100 1 3
5 41 KG26 4 8 XFK 6 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3850 1H+AP 100 1 3
5 41 KG26 5 8 XFK 6 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3887 1H+FP 100 1 3
5 41 KG26 6 8 XFK 5 KG26 F /Suez-kanal/ X HE111H-5 3885 1H+FN 100 4
5 41 KG26 23 20 4 II KG26 F Héraklion FP BR feind gebiet HE111 3843 1H+ZP 100 2 1 1
5 41 KG26 24 20 4 II KG26 F /Kreta/ BR feind gebiet HE111 3953 1H+MP 100 4
5 41 KG26 25 20 4 II KG26 F /Kreta/ F MG X
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Old 19th March 2005, 23:59
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Merci RT,

The information you provided is excellent.
Many thanks for your time and effort.

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Old 5th November 2020, 19:37
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

Hallo,
I found this old thread looking for info about LW losses during the battle for Crete in may 1941, in particular the Heraklion sector.

May I ask for your help about this data provided by RT?

5 41 KG26 23 20 4 II KG26 F Héraklion FP BR feind gebiet HE111 3843 1H+ZP 100 2 1 1

Many thanks for your help in advance
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Old 5th November 2020, 19:51
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

I am not sure whether this helps.

20/05/1941; 6./KG 26; Fl.Pl. Heraklion (Kreta); Bruchlandung auf Feindgebiet; He 111; 3843; 1H+ZP; 100%; Oblt. Stetten, Kurt v. gef.; Kreta (B) Oblt. Schmidt, Werner [gef.] / (Bf) Uffz. Kube, Heinz [verw.] / (Bm) Uffz. Miedl, Johann [gef.] / (Bs) Gefr. Hudelist, Franz [gef.]; 4-0-1-0; Take off: Athen-Eleusis
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Old 5th November 2020, 20:03
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

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I am not sure whether this helps.

20/05/1941; 6./KG 26; Fl.Pl. Heraklion (Kreta); Bruchlandung auf Feindgebiet; He 111; 3843; 1H+ZP; 100%; Oblt. Stetten, Kurt v. gef.; Kreta (B) Oblt. Schmidt, Werner [gef.] / (Bf) Uffz. Kube, Heinz [verw.] / (Bm) Uffz. Miedl, Johann [gef.] / (Bs) Gefr. Hudelist, Franz [gef.]; 4-0-1-0; Take off: Athen-Eleusis
Many thanks!
I suppose that 3843 is the ID nr of the He 111 that0s correct?
What does 1H+ZP mean?
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Old 5th November 2020, 20:19
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

The manufacturer's W.Nr. (Serial number) for this aircraft was 3843.

1H = Kampfgeschwader 26 + Z (individual aircraft within the Staffel) P (6. Staffel).

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Old 5th November 2020, 20:23
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

Many thanks!
May I know where are these data from?
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Old 5th November 2020, 20:34
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

Sure.

It is from various sources, as compiled by a number of enthusiasts. You may find more here https://www.facebook.com/groups/1620875238056614/
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Re: Luftwaffe losses during Crete campaign 5.1941

Many thanks!!

I found also an interesting thread on Forum der Wehrmacht about the same matter:

https://www.forum-der-wehrmacht.de/i...geschwader-26/

It's interesting to know if both these aircrafts where lost in Heraklion sector, (or, if not, what is the second aircraft hit there):

- von Stetten, He 111 H-5, Werknummer 3843, "1H+ZP" (laut der aktuellen Geschwaderchronik "Die Spur des Löwen": "1H+EP") und gehörte der 6./KG 26 an. Bordschütze Gefr. Hans Budelist kam ebenfalls ums Leben.
- Tönnesmann, He 111 H-5, Werknummer 3953, "1H+MP" (laut der aktuellen Geschwaderchronik "Die Spur des Löwen": "1H+EN") und gehörte der 5./KG 26 an.

The forum guy Jafü Mittelrhein list Gefr.Hans Budelist as crew member of He 111 3853, instead of Franz Hudelist. Which one is the correct name?

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