JG 51 victories (Part 2)

[Nokose]

Nick, that is possible.
12./JG 51 Lt. Klaus-Hennig Kramrath Yak-4 (1) 05:50 47723

This could be the 11 ORAP Pe-2 for the 18 Aug 42. Nikita had found a claim for a Yak-4 in 1943 that was actually a Pe-2. It's also Kramrath's first victory so mistakes are possible in ID.

[Nokose]

19 Jun 1943 (Information researched by Nikita Egorov)

Pe-2 11 ORAP (3 VA) Ml. Lt. Vasiliy Ivanovich Pushkarev was attacking a Hs 123 when he was shot down. Pushkarev and two crew were KIA.

11./JG 51 Fw. Martin Schamberger claimed a "Yak-4" (14) 20:03 PlQu. 35 Ost/26154.

Schamberger then had engine failure over the Soviet line and forced landed, 1 km W. of Borschtschina, PlQu. 35 Ost/ 26383, 100% Fw 190 A-4 5540 sw. 2 ++. According to the Kracker website he is listed as MIA but was a POW after landing.

[Monaco]

07.06.44 Ofw. Helmut Lange 1. /JG 51 P e- 2 04221: at 6.000 m . 11.40 Film C . 2 0 3 2 / I Anerk: Nr. 288
Pe-2 No. 5/288 of 10 ORAP (1 VA): pilot Jr.Lt. Marusenko, Navigator, Jr.Lt. Pavlovsky and gunner-radio operator Lt. Akhmadulin.

[Nokose]

08 Jan 43 recon. mission Olenin - Durovo Andreevskoe region
Pe-2 11 ORAP (flight co.) Lt. Timofey Kirillovich Karpov (MIA)

Fw. Walter Bracke 8/JG 51 Pe-2 (4) 12:40 PlQu. 47763

07 Nov 42 recon. mission to Molodoy Tud, Rzhev & Osuga.
Pe-2 11 ORAP St. Serzhant Galaktion Zinov'evich Safronov (MIA)

Fw. Siegfried Schwaneberg 8./JG 51 Pe-2 (16) 08:32 PlQu. 46462

[Nokose]

Originally Posted by Nokose

Nick, that is possible.
12./JG 51 Lt. Klaus-Hennig Kramrath Yak-4 (1) 05:50 47723

This could be the 11 ORAP Pe-2 for the 18 Aug 42. Nikita had found a claim for a Yak-4 in 1943 that was actually a Pe-2. It's also Kramrath's first victory so mistakes are possible in ID.

The pilot of this Pe-2 (#11/90) was Serzhant Ivan Timofeevich Moshkin who became a POW and was released in 1945. Last Soviet contact was at 06:05 (Moscow).

[Nokose]

Originally Posted by Nokose

This one will probably seem strange with the different types of Soviet fighters claimed but these are the only ones matching the time and location. There is another group following this entry.
14 Jul 1943 In the region of Dudorovsky (Ul'yanovsk) covering Soviet forces. A group of 7 Yak-7B under the leadership of Gds. St. Lt. Urusev of the 89 GIAP is attacked in this region and has all 7 fighters shot down. Among the losses are Yak-7B (# 3415345) Gds Ml. Lt. Ivan Semenovich Gaydamakin (KIA). This will have two JG 54 pilots listed among the victors. The Russian time is 17:30-1855 (M). The Soviet fighters appear to have been scattered in the dogfight.

1./JG 54 Lt. Gerhard Loos MiG-3 (25) 16:37 PlQu. 35 Ost/54442
15 (Span.)/JG 51 Maj. Marano Cuadra Medina Lagg-3 (1) 17:30 54339
15/JG 51 Oblt. Manuel Sanchez-Tabernero de Prada LaGG-3 (1) 17:35 E of Shisdra.
9./JG 51 Oblt. Maximilian Mayerl La-5 (57) 17:25 54277 (5 km N of Uljanowo)
" La-5 (58) 17:35 54418 (6 km SE of Uljanowo)
" LaGG-3 (59) 18:05 54462 (25 km ESE Uljanowo)
9./JG 51 Uffz. Rudi Meyer La-5 (20) 17:56 54251
3./JG 54 Obfw. Karl Fuchs (51) 18:11 54427

Recently I went back and looked at Christer Bergstroem's book "Kursk - The Air Battle: July 1943". I then did some follow up on the 15. (Span.)/JG 51 claims and there is another answer for their victories and losses. The two listed for them are supposed to be La-5 from the 18 GIAP flown by Lt. Pilipeyko and Ml. Lt. Borodavko (I can find nothing about them as KIA or MIA, so I assume they survived). Lt. Eduardo Garcia Amigo and Lt Manuael Sanchez-Tabernero de Prada were shot down and listed MIA. The latter evaded and later returned through the lines. So at least 2 Yak-7B from the 89 GIAP have unknown fates. The Soviet pilots claiming on the 15./JG 51 were Kapt. Vasiliy Terentyev and Serzh. Ivan Vasil'evich Stolyarov (his 1st of 8 career).

[Nokose]

31 Aug 1943 Yelnya
Maj. Mariano Cuadra Medina 15.(Span.)/JG 51 LaGG-3 (7) 13:05 PlQu. 35 Ost/35374 at 4000 m.
Lt. Jose Mateos Recio 15./JG 51 LaGG-3 (3) 12:57 SE Yelnya at 4000 m.

1 OIAP "Normandie" has 9 Yak-1 covering Soviet forces at Yelnya on observing the approach of 100 He 111 and under escort of 20 Fw 190 which they attacked west of Yelnya. In the ensuing dogfight at 14:10 (Moscow) the Yak-9 (side # 0435) [Doesn't appear all were Yak-1] flown by Capt. Paul de Forges (MIA) is shot down west of Yelnya and also the Yak-1 of Aspirant Jean De Sibour (MIA). Capt. de Forges aircraft was recovered after the war but he is still MIA. His was possibly shot down by Medina as the location is west of Yelnya.

[Nokose]

16 Jan 1943 Soviet Kalinin Front 293 BAD
Target: Burtsevo - Alekseekskoe
Pe-2 804 BAP Ml. Lt. Mikhail Efimovich Syromyatnikov (KIA)
Pe-2 804 BAP Ml. Lt. Nikolay Dmitievich Korolev (MIA0
Pe-2 804 BAP ?
Pe-2 804 BAP Mayor Vladimir Yakovlevich Gavrilov (Survived but shot down)
Gavrilov made it to the front line before bringing his plane down. He also claimed that his crew shot down two Bf 109 but IV./JG 51 suffered no losses and no damage to rate 10%. The 804 BAP had 7 KIA and MIA.

12./JG 51
Fw. Kurt Tanzer Pe-2 (22) 08:14 07553
Uffz. Walter Priess Pe-2 (12) 08:15 07581
Uffz. Gustav Müller Pe-2 (14) 08:20 07582
Fw. Wilhelm Mildner Pe-2 (2) 08:25 07533
11./JG 51 Uffz. Martin Schamberger Pe-2 (6) 08:25 07584

It appears that Müller was involved in the attack on Gavrilov but it was Schamberger who finished his bomber off.

[Nick Hector]

Hi Nokose,

I had these ones listed as

202 BAP, 263 BAD, 3 VA. This was likely the crew of Lt. N I Gapeenka bellylanded back at base; one other crew's navigator baled out, rest of crew apparently returned to base (slight overclaim)

as per http://www.allaces.ru/p/episode.php?id=569

While noting that the 2 Pe-2s claimed by II/JG 54 that date were listed as shot down several hours later...

Nick

[Nokose]

Nick,
Even thought this raid appears at the same time there seems to be a problem with someone claiming from what is described in Gapeenka's story. A "single" Bf 109 attack without a wingman which is possible would need a wingman to confirm or ground verification. 202 BAP or 263 BAD seem to have suffered no other losses this day. This leaves the 804 BAP. At best this would leave no over claiming by IV./JG 51 this day.

Reference the 4./JG 54 claims this day. They were part of Luft. Kdo. Don fighting in the Stalingrad sector of the eastern front.