The Eagles Over Europe Project

[Larry Hickey]

Chris,

Thanx. Noted and corrected in my files. Still looking for good source of high-res scans of these photos.

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

I know getting an ID on this crash is going to be a well-near impossible challenge, but I'm going to take a shot at it. The first step is to see if anyone can ID the a/c type from any detail on the wreckage. No certainty that it's LW; could be French, British, Belgian or Dutch, but probably a fighter. Can any eagle-eye technical expert spot any detail that tells us what type this is?

The second step is does anyone have any other photos of this one, which might include a caption with type, place or date?

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-PLV...-PLVZgs6-L.jpg

[Larry Hickey]

Chris Going,

Thanx for pointing me at "Strange Intelligence." One of the best photos of the FL is in that book, and was not published in the "Luftwaffe Crashes" volume. I've now got scans of these SI images. This will surely be one of our Ju88 color profile a/c. Again, thanx. Would have never been aware of that one unless you'd pointed this one out.

[Rob Romero]

Relevant and very interesting photo. Can anyone ID the pilots aside from Schumacher (2) Steinhoff (178) and Falk (8)?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Berlin-Luftsi...item5d4d00a49c

[Bf 110]

Hello,

second pilot from the right side is Hauptmann Wolfgang Falck. Second from left is possibly Unteroffizier Heinz Fresia.

Regards
Gunnar - Bf 110 -

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

I'm seeking further information, and especially photos of this crashed Bf110 on 12.05.40:

According to our EoE LW Loss DB:

12 May 1940: 13.(Z)/LG1 Messerschmitt Bf110C. Lost control in vertical dive avoiding attacks from, S/Lt Boitelet and Sgt Tallent of GC I/5, also Sgt Guillaume of GC III/7, over Vouziers and hit trees at ‘Nugimont’, south of Blagny, France, at 7.15 a.m. FF Lt Hans Gaffal thrown from aircraft and captured with fractured skull, admitted to hospital in Ste-Menehould, BF Uffz Aloysius Dierkes also captured wounded – both later released. Aircraft L1+AH 100% write-off.

A French researcher has provided this information: "I found (file 1D26 at SHD) that the aircraft was slightly damaged and also (file 2D58 at SHD) the note that the Bf 110 was nearly intact."

Surely photos exist somewhere of this crash. Who can help?

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

Recently got this photo on eBay. Obviously it has the individual letter "A" and appears to be a crashed Hs126. No caption info came with it other than it's probably in France, which may be unreliable. Does anyone have other photos or info that would help ID this one?

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-Ds9...-Ds9BH4T-L.jpg

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

The EoE WG (Working Group) is seeking photos, further loss details and pilot name of this a/c. Specific location at Boulogne would also be helpful.

According to the revised EoE LW Loss List:

"4 September 1940 5./ZG76 Messerschmitt Bf110C-4 (3229). Forced-landed at Boulogne damaged by fighters in combat west of Tonbridge 1.45 p.m. Pilot unhurt, BF Uffz Paul Neumann believed wounded. Aircraft M8+KN 40% damaged but repairable."

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

I'm seeking a date, full code and possible pilot/crew for this a/c, which did a nose-stand at Stavanger-Sola perhaps around mid-April, 1940.

The photos suggest that this may be 4D+AL of 3./KG30, which might well be the a/c of Hptm Arved Crüger Sta Kap, although he was not necessarily the pilot that day. Crüger may also not have normally flown the "A" aircraft in the Staffel. He was a Knight's Cross winner, and only the second member of KG30 to receive that award.

Detachments from 3 Staffel were operating from Sola during mid-April. Besides these three photos, which confirm the code 4D+A?, does anyone know of any other images of his incident that might confirm the 4th letter of the code, or have information that would allow a date to be put to this incident?

If this is 4D+AL, a previous aircraft with this code FL on an island off the coast of Denmark on 16.03.40, and was burned; the crew was interned. It was piloted by Uffz Siegfried Werner Matner, not Crüger. The Ju88A in these photos may have been the replacement for that a/c.

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-83J...-83JK7bC-M.jpg

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-N8Q...-N8Qzf2X-L.jpg

http://ihra.smugmug.com/photos/i-42G...-42Gk3vH-L.jpg

The first photo posted comes from this source:

http://www.fotonettverk-rogaland.no/...Forus-og-Sola/

The other two are eBay auction images. If anyone can provide original prints of any of these, it would be greatly apprecuated,

Any help would be appreciated.

[eknutson]

Hi Larry, i bougth the orginal ( 1 one ), but is forward to Jaermuseet. So it is not longer in my posetion. The code was not visable anyway.
I KG30 so it should be 4D + AH ( from the other two )
Regards
Ernst