Which stories behind these photos?

[Parabellum]

Hello,

Who knows which stories are hidden behind these photos of spitfire?
Spitfire Serial 3108 or...? http://cgi.ebay.de/007-2x-O-Foto-abg...item1e59e0192f
Spitfire YT°F serial P7?37 unsure http://cgi.ebay.de/005-2x-O-Foto-abg...item1e59e01902
http://cgi.ebay.de/004-2x-O-Foto-abg...item20aed516e6
Spitfire JU°? serial P7524 ? http://cgi.ebay.de/006-3x-O-Foto-abg...item1e59e01919
http://cgi.ebay.de/003-Orig-Foto-abg...item20aed516df
Spitfire AZ°K serial? http://cgi.ebay.de/036-O-Foto-Bergun...item20aed164ff
http://cgi.ebay.de/037-2x-Orig-Foto-...item1e59dc374e

[Larry]

YT-F of 65 Sqn is likely to be Spitfire II P7733 which was shot down on 5th Feb 1941. Sgt HC Orchard Age 24 was killed and buried at Neufchatel-Hardelot.

Source - RAF Fighter Command Losses 1939-41 by Norman Franks

[Larry]

Spitfire JU of 111 Sqn is actually P7824 if you look closely, which failed to return from a Fighter Sweep on evening of 19th August 1941. The pilot P/O JA Timmis was made a POW.

Source - RAF Fighter Command Losses 1939-41 by Norman Franks

[Larry]

AZ-K of 234 Sqn is harder to trace.

I am guessing is a Spitfire II and that the photo dates from 1941 from its camo and rough appearance; the A and Z are possibly not the same size, the individual letter K could have been changed and there is sloppy paint work on the band around the rear fuselage that has covered over the serial number. 234 Sqn got Spitfire Mk V later in the year which would probably have looked neater.

Assuming that the aircraft crash landed and the pilot became a POW my guess is that this aircraft is P8395 flown by Sgt Martin and lost to Bf 109s on an ASR escort on 17th July 1941. Although Sgt Martin was listed as Missing it transpired that he crash landed in France or close to the shore and became a POW.

[VoyTech]

AZ-K is clearly a Supermarine or Westland built Mk V.

[Larry]

Voytech - your a better man than me for knowing AZ-K was a Mk V. What identifying points did you spot in the photos?

[Parabellum]

Hello Larry,

Thanks a lot for your precisions. The reported facts are very interesting.
Looking closely at YT°F's serial, seems to me that the last two cyphers are 37 and not 33. Any other possibility, in this case?
Regarding the "unknown" serial on the barge, it seems effectively that this peculiar spifire has been picked out of the sea by a recovery german unit. So, it may be P8395.
Alongside the photos of AZ°K on ebay, there are photos (from same batch) of a recovered Bf109-F and of a Whitley after what looks like an in water emergency landing.
http://cgi.ebay.de/040-2x-O-Foto-eng...item20aed1718f
http://cgi.ebay.de/039-Orig-Foto-eng...item1e59dc3761
http://cgi.ebay.de/038-Orig-Foto-eng...item1e59dc3757
http://cgi.ebay.de/042-3x-O-Foto-Gef...item1e59dc3775
http://cgi.ebay.de/041-O-Foto-Gefang...item20aed1719b

And finally, Larry, any suggestion concerning the first one spitfire : W3108 ?
http://cgi.ebay.de/007-2x-O-Foto-abg...item1e59e0192f

Regards,

[JohnE]

I am pretty sure that YT-F is P7697 in which Kay William crashed on August 21st 1941.

/John

[VoyTech]

Originally Posted by Larry

Voytech - your a better man than me for knowing AZ-K was a Mk V. What identifying points did you spot in the photos?

The windscreen is of the later design with integral bullet-proof panel. No Mk II or Mk I ever had this. Very few (if any) CBAF-built Mk Vs had this before the change to "C" type roundels in mid-1942. Anyway, the fuselage roundel position is as applied by Supermarines and Westlands, not CBAF.

[Parabellum]

Originally Posted by VoyTech

The windscreen is of the later design with integral bullet-proof panel. No Mk II or Mk I ever had this. Very few (if any) CBAF-built Mk Vs had this before the change to "C" type roundels in mid-1942. Anyway, the fuselage roundel position is as applied by Supermarines and Westlands, not CBAF.

Hi VoyTech,

Could it be the same aircraft? Assuming it is, we do have a better view on the windsreen!
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=220186202808

Regards,