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Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
Hello all,
after some very interesting earlier discussions concerning I./SG 151 with very helpful anwers I would like to ask some questions about II./SG 151 this time. While II./SG 151 seems to have flown some missions at the Oder front in February 1945, the Gruppe was withdrawn to Ingolstadt-Manching to conduct the Panzerblitz training for all ground-attack pilots (source: Carlsen/Meyer's Die Flugzeugführer-Ausbildung der Deutschen Luftwaffe). But according to other sources (Holm's website and Stankey/de Zeng's Dive Bomber and Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe) the 5./SG 151 and 6./SG 151 remained as operational detachments at the Eastern front until their disbandment in April 1945, leaving only the 4th Staffel in the training role!
Thank you all very much in advance! Best regards Michael |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
7.2.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 932560 100% crashed near Spremberg. Fw Siegfried Huber KIA
11.2.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 593246 100% shot down in unknown area, Uffz Stieglitz MIA 11.2.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 933094 100% crash landing, location not noted 14.2.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 588053 100% shot down in unknown area, Uffz Prüfer MIA 14.2.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 588683 100% shot down in unknown area, Gr.Kom, Hptm Steinwachs MIA 25.3.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 932270 75% crashed at Finsterwalde due to technical problems, Ofw Plupper WIA 12.3.45: Fw 190F-8 WNr 586975 100% crashed near Nieder-Ullersdorf, Ob.Gfr Werner Otto KIA All from II. Gruppe (sorry no Staffel known) and apparently all from Luftflotte 10 |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
Hi,
Ofw Plupper crashed on 25.2.45 not 25.3.45. Regards, Norbert |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
Indeed...sorry was my typo
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
Thank you all very much fpr your answers!
from the time and location of the first and last two crashes it seems that the operational detachments of II./SG 151 flew sorties in the area of southern Brandenburg, Saxony and Lower Silesia. Best Michael |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
In Manfred Griehl's "Luftwaffe 45 - Letzte Flüge und Projekte" it is stated that 5./SG 151 was subordinated to Stab/SG 1.
Best Michael |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
According to some documents.
Oberkommando der Luftwaffe, General der Schlachtflieger from 5th April 1945. Reorganisation of S.G. 151. North Germany Geschwaderstab S.G. 151 I./S.G. 151 with 1. Staffel 2. Staffel 12. Staffel with Pz.Blitz-Ausb.Kdo. 12./S.G. 151 15./S.G. 151 with subordinated 14./S.G. 151 South Germany II./S.G. 151 with 4. Staffel 5. Staffel 10. Staffel and 11. Staffel. With an immediate effect the following reorganisation of Schlachtgeschw. 151 becomes effective. From 8th April 1945. Stab Schlachtgeschwader 151 with Stab I./S.G. 151 with Stabskomp. and 1., 2., 12. Staffel Stab II./S.G. 151 with Stabskomp. and 3. - 6. Staffel 15. und 14./S.G. 151 Umrüstkdo (S) Disbanded: Stab III./S.G. 151 with Stabskomp. and 7. - 9. Staffel Stab IV./S.G. 151 Formed for 3 months: Pz.Blitz-Ausbildungskommando Erg.Kommando Bü 181 Subordination: 12. Staffel under I./S.G. 151 3. Staffel under II./S.G. 151 14. Staffel under 15./S.G. 151 Pz.Blitz Ausb.Kdo. under 12./S.G. 151 Erg.Kdo. Bü 181 under 15./S.G. 151 Umrüstkdo. (S) under Stab S.G. 151 Hope this helps. Kaczmarek |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
Hello,
the Crash 12.03.1945 was near Nieder-Ollersdorf/ Dolní Oldřiš in CZ Rüdiger |
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Re: Operational detachments of II./SG 151 in 1945
Hi Kaczmarek,
Was there a typo here: "Stab II./S.G. 151 with Stabskomp. and 3. - 6. Staffel" since nothing is said about 4. 5. 10. and 11./SG151 previously under II./SG151 command... Thanks, Olivier PS: does 3.-6. mean 3., 4., 5., 6. ? I suppose yes but what about 10 and 11 ? disbanded ? Last edited by O.Menu; 23rd February 2015 at 01:40. Reason: PS: added |
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