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Old 9th November 2011, 21:18
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Bf 110 group indentification?

Hello,

Being new to understanding Luftwaffe aircraft codes I was wondering - is it possible to indentify which squadron/group this Bf-110 is from based on the photo below?

I believe this pilot may be Franz Stigler's (JG 27/JV 44) brother August, who was killed in October 1940 in France.

Any help you guys could provide would be appreciated.

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Old 9th November 2011, 21:35
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Re: Bf 110 group indentification?

Hi,

it`s Ju 88A from 1./806.

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Old 9th November 2011, 22:04
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Re: Bf 110 group indentification?

Hi Bryan

Robert beat me to the same conclusion... To slightly expand this; this unit was Kampfgruppe 806, which had started life as
Küstenfliegergruppe 806. They gained their Ju88As in the summer of 1940 and were based in France, firstly at Nantes and then Cean, so that would appear to fit with the info on the pilot.... but cant find any info on him.

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Old 9th November 2011, 23:50
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Re: Bf 110 group indentification?

Hello Robert & Ian,

Thanks so much for the help. I feel stupid for ID'ing the plane as a 110!

The only other piece of information I have for August Stigler is that he was killed on October 22, 1940 and is buried at La Cambe, France.

Not sure if that info helps with the mystery.

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Old 10th November 2011, 03:39
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Re: Bf 110 group indentification?

Hi Bryan
La Cambe is in Normandy so that fits with KGr806 being at Caen-Carpiquet from 11th September 1940. However I believe that the war graves at La Cambe were a post-war establishment where dead German military were reinterred, so unfortunately that doesn’t provide definite evidence for where the death occurred. Loss records for KGr806 could help?

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Old 10th November 2011, 07:29
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Hi,

his Ju 88 crashed during takeoff for nocturnal attack on London.

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Re: Bf 110 group indentification?

Hi Robert

Do you have a complete code for the aircraft. From the photo (and the presumption that the staffel letter must be a H) it is M7+_H, but the missing letter could be R, P, H or F.

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Re: Bf 110 group indentification?

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Hi Bryan
La Cambe is in Normandy so that fits with KGr806 being at Caen-Carpiquet from 11th September 1940. However I believe that the war graves at La Cambe were a post-war establishment where dead German military were reinterred, so unfortunately that doesn’t provide definite evidence for where the death occurred. Loss records for KGr806 could help?

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Ian
I confirm that German war graves from the area around were exhumated and the bodies reinterred in La Cambe post-war.
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