Photo Macchi Flying Boat

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay there is a photo of a Macchi L.2 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/9971-AVIAZIO...cAAOSwaTJeqsIG


At least I assume that it is a L.2 based on this site:


http://earlyaviators.com/emarin4b.htm


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


On 24.05.20 further photos of Macchi L.3 flying boats based at Brindisi can be seen on ebay at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...4AAOSwjsVeyRoP


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...sAAOSwKVheyRnD


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...oAAOSwnKJeyRih


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...EAAOSwnAJeyRfK


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Still on 24.05.20 the following photos captioned as Macchi flying boats based at Brindisi and Vigna di Valle can be seen as follows:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...QAAOSw6QdeyRbY


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...EAAOSwq~5eyRPo


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Macchi L.1 L156 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlero...333414032.html


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Macchi L.3 flying boats at:


Macchi L.3 705*



https://www.ebay.it/itm/765-3-WW-1-A...gAAOSwHB5eSba4


Macchi L.3 M.4874


https://www.ebay.it/itm/765-11-WW-1-...EAAOSw4wZeSbis



I would welcome opinions about what the last digit on the first machine is.



Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

Clint

What about M.7056? When checking WDF 86 the photo is there on page 9

Also according to Gregory Alegi, both M.4874 and M.7056 are model M.5

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Hi Stig,


I don't have the WDF. You are correct of course about M7056 being an M.5. I posted too quickly I think. I just wanted a second opinion on that one, because as I know you're aware fronm an earlier post the WDF serials are a bit questionable. Given that the macine shown is M.7056, I tend to agree the last digit is 6 that would make it the first of that batch of M.5s.


I have a bit more of a problem with M.4874. At the moment I'm transcribing serials and units from Gentilli and Varriale I Reparti and I'll have to go back and check since I've only just reached the naval units, but I thought the m.48** batch were L.3. In fact I've just checked on M.4876 which is the closest I've recorded yet and its an L.3. I have been finding, despite odd typos I Reparti more reliable on serials than the Alfgi WDFs.Alegi having recorded 7056 as a Pomilio PE serial. Though in his defence he does admit in the WDF on the SAML's that the serials he gives are a bit speculative.


Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Clint

Well, you are correct about there being too many double serials in our Italian lists

I am slowly progressing through the WDF volumes (I think I have all with direct connection to Italy) but I don't have all of them, so some French and English types may slip by.

I will send it over to you when "finished"....

With regard to the M.5 Alegi actually calls the batch M.4866 - 4875 type MA. Photos shown: Ma.4868, M.4869, M.4870 and Ma.4873. Seems it was a sort of interim type. The M.5 was a single-seater (and thus smaller) while the L.3 (M.3) was a side-by-side two-seater, but since they are basically in scale it is dificult to see unless you have two persons in the cockpit...

As far as I know he has made extensive research into flying boats so I am pretty certain he is correct this time.

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Hi Stig,


I will tentatively type in MA for the range of serials M.4866 to M.4875 you mention on my excel doc. Thanks. I take it that the photos of the MA machines look different from either the L.3 or M.5?



As mentioned I'm finding it far more productive using I Reparti as a base for Italian serials rather than the WDFs. On the specific area we're discussing WDF 117 has a batch of Pomilio PE running from 6840 to 7097. As can be seen this is very wrong if the Macchi M.5 shown in the link is M.7052 and I have other M.5 between serial 7052 and 7097. There are also examples of where one WDF contradicts another by the same author.


Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

I know Clint

As I said, when I am "finished", you will be the first to get it.
Perhaps you then have other things you can fill in.

Cheers
Stig