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Old 23rd October 2019, 05:07
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SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Hello,

Seeking names of the 27 lost with the SS.Samuel J.Tilden on December 2nd, 1943.
10 crew. [ full crew were 41 ].
14 US Servicemen
3 UK Servicemen.

So far I have -
Crew
Chernick, Peter A. - 3rd Engineer - Z-407179.
Boczek, John J. Fireman/Waterman - Z-355356.
Aponte, Juan E. 1st Engineer - Z-090017.
Alvarado, Delfin 2nd Engineer - Z-055700.
Allison, Orin C. Fireman/Waterman - Z-302265.
Brown, Fred W. Newsman - Z-007702.
Tone, Francis B. - Engineer Cadet.
Not 100% certain but the Crew number losses is 10.

Perhaps the remaining three Crewmen are in the following list -
Sicily-Rome American Cemetery,
US Merchant Marine.
Couillard, Joseph P - Merchant Seaman - Z-096606.
Dickinson, William C. - Merchant Seaman - Z-191481.
Fontnette, Richard (NMI) - Merchant Seaman - Z-167381.
Gagliardi, Joseph (NMI) - Merchant Seaman - Z-153385.
Gillette, Robert M. - Merchant Seaman - Z-054167.
Holland, Donald H. - Merchant Seaman - O-147865.
Mauricio, Eugenio - Merchant Seaman - Z-168195.
Misinonile, Louis J. - Merchant Seaman - Z-375236.
O'Brien, Patrick (NMI) - Merchant Seaman - Z-069546.
Otremba, Frank J. - Merchant Seaman - Z-042641.

14 US Servicemen
Have 4 USAAF - 2 are certain, with 2 others, 99% sure.
98BG/343BS
DiMaggio, Donato (NMI) - Sgt - 32197392 - (99%).
Eslich, John M. - M/Sgt - 07025856 - (100%).
Murrell, Oscar H. - M/Sgt - 5081644 - (100%).
Schuster, Francis B. Jr - S/Sgt - 11046248 - (99%).
Do not know if the others were also USAAF or Army or Navy.

3 UK Servicemen
There are some possibilities, two groups of 3 but can see no connection to a ship ?

https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?136080

Thanks for any help
Alex

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Old 23rd October 2019, 20:59
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Re: SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Alex,
You can (also) find most of the names of the Merchant Marine men here: https://www.dpaa.mil/Portals/85/Docu...nt_marine.html


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Old 23rd October 2019, 21:05
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Re: SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Alex,
On this list no USN casualties linked to SS Samuel J. Tilden: https://www.naval-history.net/WW2USc...byDate1943.htm


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Old 24th October 2019, 02:42
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Re: SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Hello Leendert,

Not all the crew names or ship's name seem to be in the list's?
Six names of ten given in one list but nil in the other as far as I could see.
Thanks though saved my trawling through (slow machine) the lists.
Thank you,
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Old 29th October 2019, 13:34
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Re: SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Alex

This link gives the name of Francis Bernard Tone as being lost on the "Samuel J Tilden".

With your list of six this would apparently be a 7th casualty.

https://books.google.com/books?id=aT...20bari&f=false

Here is a complete story: http://www.kingspointww2.org/tone-francis-bernard/
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Old 29th October 2019, 15:34
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Re: SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Thank you Rolland,

Your link gives a survivors name , so 12 of the 41 crew now known Captain was Joseph L. Blair.
Adds another name, three lost crewmen still to find.
Also More US servicemen and the three British Servicemen .
Some 200 "passengers" were on board . So the losses were thankfully few .

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Re: SS. Samuel J.Tilden, December 2nd, 1943

Alex,
On the DPAA Missing Lists you can find additional names for US Army and USAAF soldiers.



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