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Old 30th May 2021, 21:28
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Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

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He stayed there until 7 January 1940, one day later, Rudorffer, now an Oberfeldwebel (staff sergeant), was posted to the 2. Staffel (2nd squadron) of Jagdgeschwader 2 "Richthofen" (JG 2—2nd Fighter Wing), named after the World War I fighter ace Manfred von Richthofen.[2]

Combat Archive 9 p5 1 Sept 1940 1/JG2 Fw Erich Rudorffer. Spitfire Dover

Surely he didnt go down a grade when moving to 1 staffel ? Can anyone confirm he did move to 1 staffel JG2 in fact or was this a temporary move ?

What book or website has all the movements and ranks of all the Luftwaffe Pilots in the Battle of Britain ?

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Re: Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

On 8 Jan 40 he arrived on 2./JG 2 at Frankfurt-Rebstock and was commissioned 28 Oct 40.. His first kill was 14 May 40 as a Fw and his first as Ofw was his 19th on 10 Oct 40 still with 2 Staffel. Beware Wikepedia and no such book exists as it would be massive

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Re: Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

Thanks Chris,
So Combat Archive have rank correct of Fw but they have the Staffel wrong, saying 1 Staffel.

I see from another post that Dec 16 1942 after recovering from injury he returns to his unit and it says 4th Staffel.


Could he have temporarily have been with 1 Staffel on 1 Sept 2021 ?


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Could he have temporarily have been with 1 Staffel on 1 Sept 2021 ?
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Re: Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

According to him, he was a pilot with 2 Staffel, Adjutant of II./JG 2 (1 Jun 41) and St Kap of 6./JG 2 (taking over from Frank Liesendahl 15 Jul 41). Lt 28 Oct 40, Oblt 1 Oct 41. He took command of II./JG 2 17 Apr 43 and then to IV./JG 54 30 Jun 43
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Re: Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

2021 oops.
1940 !

So 2 Staffel through and through in 1940 or certainly Sept 1940, so Vol 9 are wrong.
I have been adding Pilots to my database and finding my rank entries initially placed there I seem to recall from Peter Foote data are differing, but hope the Staffel dont also differ, makes it slow going having to research each addition.

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Re: Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

There is no such book, but perhaps the Bundesarchiv has such infomation...
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1 Sept 2021? I doubt it somehow!

Maybe that was supposed to be prophetic?
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Re: Combat archive 9 downgrades Erich Rudorffer puzzled

Bundesarchiv Freiburg:

PERS 6/180432
Rudorffer, Erich
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Personalunterlagen von Angehörigen der Reichswehr und Wehrmacht
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