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B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Hello,
looking for Informations (List) about B-17 Fortress Losses on 11. January 1944 Raid Oschersleben. Thanks for helping... streak98 |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Streak,
I for one am happy to help, but you're going to need to be specific about what you are seeking exactly. Stan D Bishop and John A Hey's Losses of the US 8th and 9th Air Forces Vol 2 lists a total of 47 B-17s for the day (assuming I did not mis-count the total and be aware, I did not discount aircraft that were assigned to bomb Halberstadt because it is 10.30pm and I knocked off work an hour ago, then must be up again at 5am...) Plus 6 that were 'salvaged' and gives considerable detail on each loss. I can't possibly spell each one of them out for you here on the board.... So, I say again, can you be more specific rather than just asking for a list? Otherwise, I just have to refer you to the source. Be aware that they can be very hard to get hold of, so to help you, the volume's ISBN number is 978-0-9547685-2-2 Nick Last edited by Nick Hector; 10th September 2015 at 15:04. Reason: Clarification |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Good luck with your research
from http://www.accident-report.com/MACR/1944/m194401.html DATE TYPE SERIAL NO UNIT LOCATION MACR NO 440111 B-17 42-5878 381 GERMANY 1874 440111 B-17 42-3118 381 GERMANY 1875 440111 B-17 42-37962 381 GERMANY 1876 440111 B-17 42-37730 381 GERMANY 1877 440111 B-17 42-3514 381 GERMANY 1878 440111 B-17 42-31417 381 GERMANY 1879 440111 B-17 42-29999 381 GERMANY 1880 440111 B-17 42-37719 381 GERMANY 1881 440111 B-17 42-29961 94 GERMANY 1882 440111 B-17 42-37798 94 GERMANY 1883 440111 B-17 42-31216 94 GERMANY 1884 440111 B-17 42-3530 94 GERMANY 1885 440111 B-17 42-39767 94 GERMANY 1886 440111 B-17 42-37730 381 GERMANY 1887 440111 B-17 42-30425 94 GERMANY 1888 440111 B-17 42-30248 94 GERMANY 1889 440111 B-17 42-29487 91 GERMANY 1915 440111 B-17 42-31230 91 GERMANY 1916 440111 B-17 42-31372 91 GERMANY 1917 440111 B-17 42-3057 91 GERMANY 1918 440111 B-17 42-31076 91 GERMANY 1919 440111 B-17 42-31175 92 GERMANY 1920 440111 B-17 42-39758 92 GERMANY 1921 440111 B-17 41-24587 303 GERMANY 1922 440111 B-17 41-24619 303 GERMANY 1923 440111 B-17 42-3448 303 GERMANY 1924 440111 B-17 41-24562 303 GERMANY 1925 440111 B-17 42-5360 303 GERMANY 1926 440111 B-17 42-30865 303 GERMANY 1927 440111 B-17 42-29894 303 GERMANY 1928 440111 B-17 42-39794 303 GERMANY 1929 440111 B-17 42-37896 303 GERMANY 1930 440111 B-17 42-30782 306 GERMANY 1931 440111 B-17 42-31538 306 GERMANY 1932 440111 B-17 42-31236 306 GERMANY 1933 440111 B-17 42-31451 306 GERMANY 1934 440111 B-17 42-29993 306 GERMANY 1935 440111 B-17 42-29861 351 GERMANY 1936 440111 B-17 42-39905 351 GERMANY 1937 440111 B-17 42-30780 351 GERMANY 1938 440111 B-17 42-39761 351 HOLLAND 1939 440111 B-17 42-3523 351 GERMANY 1940 440111 B-17 42-31481 351 GERMANY 1941 440111 B-17 42-37768 379 GERMANY 1943 440111 B-17 42-3131 303 GERMANY 1966 440111 B-17 42-39910 381 FRANCE 1978 440111 B-17 42-5918 95 GERMANY 2010 440111 B-17 42-39879 390 HOLLAND 2023 440111 B-17 42-3504 96 ENG CHANNEL 2376 440111 B-17 42-39893 401 GERMANY 2505 440111 B-17 42-37809 401 GERMANY 2506 440111 B-17 42-31033 401 GERMANY 2507 440111 B-17 42-39969 401 GERMANY 2508 440111 B-17 42-31082 447 GERMANY 2512 440111 B-17 42-31107 447 GERMANY 2513 440111 B-17 42-3486 482 GERMANY 2522 440111 B-17 42-30215 388 GERMANY 3127 440111 B-17 42-37867 388 GERMANY 3140 440111 B-17 42-29524 303 HOLLAND 4269 440111 B-17 UNKNOWN 94 GERMANY 12969 |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Hi Nick,
Thank you for your Interest and help in this case. Especially I`m looking for two losses ( B-17 42-3448 303rd BG. Lt. Eich ) and the second B-17 42-31107. Both crashed that day in the vicinity of Lake Steinhude. Due to German Investigation Error at this time, we think that 42-3448 did not crashed near the Lake but 20 Kilometres more West near Großenheerse. with Warm Regards Streak98 (Dirk) |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
According to MACR 42-3448 crashed 3 km North of Rehburg at 12.20 hours.
42-31107 crashed 2 km nordwest of Rehburg. You can download the MACR via fold3 |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Hello,
One fatality for 42-3448 was T/S. Daniel S. Harvey - 35562782. And for 42-31107 Eight fatalities are listed,starting with Lt/Col. Charles H. Bowman - O-021994. A quick ref is- usaafdata.com/?q=search Just type in the serial number in the "Details" Box. Alex |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
42-3448 - Down to Flak and fighters, lost 2 engines and crashed on the north shore of Steinhuder Meer
42-31107 - Shot down by rockets from fighters, crashed into swamp. From 8th & 9th losses, quoting MACRs 1924 and 2513 respectively |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Hi Alex, & Delmenhorst,
Thank`s for helping and the Information`s about the Loss of the Eich Crew. Crash Location for the 42-3448 (Rehburg) is not correct, due to Eyewitness and Local Documents, the Bomber went down in Großenheerse / Petershagen (Minden) with kindly Regards streak98 (Dirk) |
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Re: B-17 Losses 11. January 1944
Hi Dirk
Thanks for the new information Carsten |
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