Captured German planes, not from eBay

[Karoband]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

You're most welcome, Jim !

For your first attachment, I would respectfully suggest a Ju 52/3m; notice the Go 242 in the background.

The second attachment does show us Fl.Pl. Prenzlau, captured late April 1945.

Cheers
Marc

You're right, Marc. It is a Ju 52/3m by its tail! Thank you for the location of the second attachment.

Matolion, thank you for finding the location of the first,

Jim

[Schlageter]

Originally Posted by ChristianK

This was posted over at modelforum.cz by Spektor. Sadly, no source is given, but the photo is labeled as being taken at Erfurt. I cross-checked with an aerial shot from Erfurt-Bindersleben from 10 April 1945 and the location seems to be correct. Anyway, are there more photos of these planes known? I think I saw this (JG 11?) Fw 190 A somewhere else, and the D-9 should be new? Thoughts?


Cheers,
Christian

The D-9 could be - based on the camouflage pattern - from the Focke-Wulf production line but it is the first time I see a Dora with a solid black fuselage cross!

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by ChristianK

This was posted over at modelforum.cz by Spektor. Sadly, no source is given, but the photo is labeled as being taken at Erfurt. I cross-checked with an aerial shot from Erfurt-Bindersleben from 10 April 1945 and the location seems to be correct. Anyway, are there more photos of these planes known? I think I saw this (JG 11?) Fw 190 A somewhere else, and the D-9 should be new? Thoughts?


Cheers,
Christian

ChristanK and Schlageter,

Regarding the D-9, we have both W.Nr. 210231 and 601058 listed as "ausgeschlachtet" in the relevant A.I.2(g) report dated 14 April 1945. Five other burnt out D-9's are accounted for without W.Nr.

Cheers
Marc

[ChristianK]

There is a A.I.2 report on Erfurt-Bindersleben? Thanks Marc, I did not know this! Is the Fw 190 A in my photo also mentioned?

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks to the pointer of Kari Lumppio in the Staaken Bf 109 thread, here some photos from the Estonian archives showing:

A Fw 189 wreck possibly from 1.(H)/Aufkl.Gr. 31, found at E.-Hafen Wesenberg -Rakvere which was captured 20 September 1944 by the Russian army. photo is dated October 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814a0c0d2cd

At the same location, a trashed Ju 87 D center section with a Fw 189 fin in the background:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814b70dbf84

The remains of a Fw 190 F-8, possibly from I./SG 5, also at at E.-Hafen Wesenberg -Rakvere, October 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814bed3f613

One or more II./JG 54 Fw 190 A-8 wrecks and abandoned AB 250's in the vicinity of the Landeplatz Turgel-Türi (called Särevere airfield in the caption), near Järvamaa, 12 November 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814675aa396
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608147095a512
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608147b52c770
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=60814732c37de

This other set does show another Fw 190 F-8 "Schwarze B", III./SG 3, found wrecked at Fl.Pl. Oberpahlen- Pöltsamaa and photographed By Hans Tölpt in December 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148006ef18
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92

And one unknown biplane wreck, also found at the same location and photographed by Hans Tölpt in december 1944:
https://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php/en...=608148ea22f92

Cheers
Marc

[Kari Lumppio]

Hallo!

That unknown biplane could be Ar 66 from 3./NSGr 11 (Estonians), but that is mere a guess.

Cheers,
Kari

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Kari Lumppio

Hallo!

That unknown biplane could be Ar 66 from 3./NSGr 11 (Estonians), but that is mere a guess.

Cheers,
Kari

Thanks for this tentative ID, Kari - and thanks so much for the pointer on this highly interesting Estonian archive !

Cheers
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there Gang,

Some new photos from the Russian archives. Location is Fl.Pl. Petsamo Luostari, after being overrun by the Russian Army, 15 October 1944.
https://vk.com/albums-140181428?z=ph...-9d3DAKQWTO0iA
https://vk.com/albums-140181428?fbcl...otos-140181428

Cheers
Marc

[cproyston]

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[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi there folks,

Some photos from the New-Zealand archives:

Fassberg, April 1945:
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson

Possibly Fassberg ?
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson

Rheine, April 1945:
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson

Copenhagen-Kastrup, May 1945:
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...DMesserschmitt
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...3Fq%3DAtkinson
https://fotoweb.airforcemuseum.co.nz...%3Fq%3DSheddan

Cheers
Marc