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Old 17th February 2019, 10:18
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ZG1 losses (?) july 1943

Hello all

What are the losses (?) of I/ZG.1 and Pz.Jag.St/ZG1 in the region of Krasnokovo (60 km of Orel) on 15/07/43 and 16/07/43?

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Old 18th February 2019, 23:12
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Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943

Hello Michel,

in the Gen.Qu. loss returns the following losses and damages in mid July 1943 are listed:

I./ZG 1
12.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6113 1./ZG 1 100%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6111 2./ZG 1 25%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6292 3./ZG 1 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6327 I./ZG 1 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5107 I./ZG 1 100%
18.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5207 2./ZG 1 25%
21.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 2698 1./ZG 1 80% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 F-4)

Pz.Jg.St./ZG 1
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6252 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6285 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6289 70%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5202 100% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 G-2)
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6297 100%
22.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5236 30%

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Old 19th February 2019, 11:34
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Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943

Thank you Leo

In the light of no losses on July 15 and 16,the claims (four) of the GC "Normandie" are unfounded,wich raises some questions about the seriousness of these claims....they seem to have taken their "desires" with reality.

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Re: ZG1 losses (?) july 1943

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Thank you Leo

In the light of no losses on July 15 and 16,the claims (four) of the GC "Normandie" are unfounded,wich raises some questions about the seriousness of these claims....they seem to have taken their "desires" with reality.

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Michel
Hello Michel,

some doubts also for those of July 14th. The Soviets only validate one for Béguin and Albert's second is questionable.
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Old 2nd April 2021, 18:25
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Hello Michel,

in the Gen.Qu. loss returns the following losses and damages in mid July 1943 are listed:

I./ZG 1
12.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6113 1./ZG 1 100%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6111 2./ZG 1 25%
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6292 3./ZG 1 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6327 I./ZG 1 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5107 I./ZG 1 100%
18.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5207 2./ZG 1 25%
21.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 2698 1./ZG 1 80% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 F-4)

Pz.Jg.St./ZG 1
13.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6252 100%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6285 15%
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6289 70%
14.7.43 Bf 110 F-2 5202 100% (Petrick/Mankau, Messerschmitt Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410: a GWF built Bf 110 G-2)
14.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 6297 100%
22.7.43 Bf 110 G-2 5236 30%

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Leo
Have you more information about that ? hours, location, cause ?

ask you this to cross with the Soviet archives.

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