Wreck

[mkenny]

Can anyone identify this wreck, is it a FW-190 or a P-47?

Location is 1km n/east of Cagny, Normandy. Cagny is 5km east of Caen and the wreck was in situ for 18/7/44

[ArtieBob]

My first guess is that it is not a Fw 190, as the wing tip appears to be more rounded, so if the choice is between those two types, I would chose a P-47. However, I wouldn't bet very much on my answer.

Best regards,

Artie Bob

[Martin Bull]

It's difficult to make out, but the propeller seems to have a large spinner which would rule out a P-47. Just a thought - is this the wing-section of a twin-engined aircraft ?

[mkenny]

This is the field with the wreckage

[drgondog]

Looks like the cockpit and wingtip of a 109 - definitely NOT a 47 or 190 wingtip (or a 51)

[Franek Grabowski]

It is a fighter crashed in Normandy. Rounded wingtip - does not look like Spitfire nor Messerschmitt - Typhoon or Thunderbolt. Angle between prop blades indicates there were 4 attached to the hub - excludes any German type. Engine looks like radial - see coolant flaps - P-47. I would say that the ammo bays are visible as well as barrel covers in the leading edge. I am wondering if it is not 42-26407 C4-V of 365 FG lost on 11 July.
Beatiful shot with those wrecks behind (I cannot see them on aerial shot), any chance for a better scan?

[Revi16]

Not that this helps but, there is a knocked out (sagging barrel) King Tiger in the background.

It's tough to say what the wreckage is. Is it upside down or right side up?

It may be a P-47, the engine mount (aft arrow) looks to be in about the right place for bulkhead position, etc.
A FW-190 would have a thicker nose ring (forward arrow) with the oil tank and armoured ring up front.
If it was a FW-190 you would see gun/mounts just aft and above the engine. They don't seem to exist.

Regards,
Mike

[Martin Bull]

On closer inspection, one of the 'prop blades' could in fact be a picket for a barbed-wire fence in the background.....

[Franek Grabowski]

Originally Posted by Revi16

It's tough to say what the wreckage is. Is is upside down or right side up?
If it's upside down, the prop could be a three blade prop with two blade up in the air.

Pardon?

I notice there is a ring infront of the engine. Could it be the armoured oil tank ring of the FW-190?
A P-47 has an aluminum cowling up front which would probably have melted along with the rest of it.

It is a ring to attach cowling to it.
Men, this cannot be abything else but a Thunderbolt!

[Revi16]

Franek,

Thank you for pointing out what I just said! It's probably a P-47!

Not sure where you got your quotes from me (Revi16) from???

Not what I posted.

Regards,