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Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
Can anyone please post the Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945 with location (if possible)?
Most important are the claims reported by US-fighters. |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
hallo,
fighters of 15th AAF claims 1 Fw 190, 1 Ar 234, 1 Me 262 dam, 8th AAF 1 Ju 88, 3 Ju 52 (night 10/11), 30 Bf 109, 27 Fw 190, 1 Me 262 dam, and 2 Ju 52 (night 11/12), total 48-1-10 but I know only this losses: Bf 109K ? Lt Steybe Hans wia St IV./JG53 Bf 109K 333995 ? wia 9./JG77 Bf 109K 334133 Ofhr. Dolle Hans-Günter unv. I./JG 27 Fw 190 ? ? unv. SG 10 (note: shoot down by Lightning of 14th FG) Ju 88G 621978 ? unv. NJG 100 |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
From a cursory look at period intelligence reports, the overall picture is this:
VIIIth A.F. didn’t claim any enemy aircraft IXth A.F. claimed 4-0-0 during the night of the 10th/11th, but claimed one damaged or a probable during the day. XIIth A.F. claimed 5-0-0 in the air, 10 Me.109s Augsberg which two were claimed at 1105, with one later at 1440; 1 Fw.190 north-east of Bayrenth at 1625 and 1 un-identified enemy aircraft 10 miles south-east of Regensburg and 42-1-36 on the ground at the following locations 0.7962/0.7959/0.9048/U.0898, during the 11th. XIXth claimed 42-0-7 in the air, 1 Me.109 at D.9515 at 0840, 1 Me.109 at K.1054 at 1415, 26 plus Me.109s and Fw.190s at D.9020 at 1920 which 20-0-6 where claimed, and 21-0-6 on the ground. XXIXth claimed 17-2-5 in the air and 9-1-5 on the ground. Claims included in Ninth A.F. total but details not available. 2nd T.A.F. claimed 1-0-0, a Ju.188 10 miles north of Osnabruck during the night of the 10th/11th, with 2-0-0 in the air, a Ju-52 and an unidentified enemy aircraft at 1900 hrs., and 14-0-8 on the ground at the following: Marx A/F, Handorf A/F, Jeuer A/F, Uarrelbush A/F, Broekzetel A/F, during the day of 11th. R.A.F. Fighter Command claimed 3-0-0 during the night of the 10th/11th, 1-0-2 during the day of the 11th. What are you working on? Stephen |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
Fw 190 ? ? unv. SG 10
(note: shoot down by Lightning of 14th FG) Ju 88G 621978 ? unv. NJG 100 Where hv you found these losses ?? Remi |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
Found this for this date:
Fw 189 A-1 A.Gr. 31 Fl.Pl. Mährisch-Ostrau He 162 A JG 1 Magdeburg (Raum) Bf 109 K-4 JG 27 Steimke (bei) Bf 109 G/K JG 27 (Mitteldeutschland) Bf 109 G JG 27 Dambeck Bf 109 G JG 27 Tilleda (Kyffhäuser) Bf 109 G JG 27 Bad-Frankenhausen (4 km NNW) FW 190 A-9 JG 300 Delitzsch, 10 km östl. Fw 190 A-9 JG 301 unbek. Fw 190 D-9 JG 301 unbek. Fw 190 D-9 JG 301 Halberstadt (Raum) Fw 190 A-9 JG 301 Schwerin (südlich) Bf 109 G/K JG 4 Mücheln Bf 109 G/K JG 4 Tilleda (Kyffhäuser) Bf 109 G JG 5 Skien / Porsgrunn (Raum) Bf 109 G JG 5 Skien / Porsgrunn (Raum) Bf 109 G-14 JG 52 Fl.Pl. Schweidnitz Bf 109 G-14 JG 52 Breslau (Raum) Bf 109 G-14 JG 52 Breslau (Raum) Bf 109 K-4 JG 53 Reichenbach (Raum) Me 262 A-1a JG 7 Fl.Pl. Prag-Rusin Bf 109 K-4J G 77 Fl.Pl. Beneschau Ar 234 B-2 Kdo. Sommer Filo (1 km E), 11 km NW Alfonsine (Valli-di-Comacchio) Ju 88 S-3 KG 66 (Diepholz) Ju 88 S-3 KG 66 (Diepholz) Ju 88 S-3 KG 66 (Diepholz) Ju 88 S-3 KG 66 (Diepholz) FW 190 A-8 SG 10 Srubec Fw 190 F-8 SG 77 Halbau, 15 km SE Bautzen/Sa. khorat khorat |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
Hi Khorat,
can you specify the loss of the He 162 ,please ? |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
see Prien/Rodeike JG1/11 part III page 1649, Fhr. Franz Mann, emergency landing due engine failure, pilot MIA area Magdeburg.
khorat |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
The cause for my post is a grave of an unidentified german fighter pilot SW of Oschersleben (this is 30km W of Magdeburg).
Shot down on the 11th of April 1945 while attacking american ground forces during their advance to the Elbe river. Since a long time I have tried to identify this man, with no success until today. Thank you to all for the posts! |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
The "Vdk-Verband deutsche Kriegsgraeberfuersorge" in Kassel lists this unidentified pilot with a rank of an "Unteroffizier".
But this could have been an error by the civilians who found and burried him. (?) The crashed plane was identified as a Fw 190 by the german civilians at that time. Can we use a name from the names mentioned above? Suggestions? Thank you in advance. |
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Re: Luftwaffe losses on 11 April 1945
The unknown German fighter pilot has found his last rest at Alikendorf cemetery.
(some km S-W of Oschersleben; appr. 30km W of Magdeburg) The plane came down on a field S of Kleinalsleben/Alikendorf. Possible from khorat's list are the following planes: Bf 109 G/K JG 27 (Mitteldeutschland) Fw 190 A-9 JG 301 unbek. Fw 190 D-9 JG 301 unbek. Fw 190 D-9 JG 301 Halberstadt (Raum) -----> Remark: can we see one of these "Doras" on page 354/355 in JaPo "Fw 190 Camouflage & Markings, Part II" ? From barkas and Remi's message: Fw 190 ? ? unv. SG 10 (note: shoot down by Lightning of 14th FG) From Stephen's message: What A.F.'s should we include/exclude ? So far I've seen, the coordinates for the XIXth claims are more in the Leipzig area. -----> Remark: Info from Dr. Christian Möller (Moeller): Einsatzmeldungen "West", 11.04.1945: 17.15 hrs and 19.25 hrs -1. Jagddiv., airraids (Tieffliegerangriffe) by JG4 - 24xFw190 and 17xMe109 and JG301 - 35xFw190 in the area of Braunschweig. 22 pilots were reported as MIA! digedag1 |
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