Fw. Tarnahy and Fhr. Gynis - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Urusut · #1 5th May 2021, 10:51

Hello,

Please can anyone provide details on the loss of Fw. Tarnahy and Fhr. Gynis (JG.52) who was killed on the 9.5.1943?

Thanks
Oleg

Brian Bines · #2 5th May 2021, 15:34

Collision in the air Pl.Qu 61364 - Bf 109 F4s 12721 Gynis and 7007 Tarnahy both pilots killed see GQM dated 27-5-1943 page 8

Regards
Brian Bines

Rottler · #3 5th May 2021, 19:30

These losses are in fact listed in the GQM loss returns but they are not mentioned in the I./JG 52 chronicle in JFV 12/II. Bf 109 F losses of I./JG 52 in May 1943 are strange because this group had re-eqipped from Bf 109 F to Bf 109 G in June/July 1942.

Regards
Leo

Jim P. · #4 6th May 2021, 06:28

They are however listed in Fast, JG 52, IV, p.92. And looking at the names, though listed as I./JG 52 losses, were these guys possibly from one of the allied Slovak or Kroat units attached to JG 52? They aren't listed there either, but? Or similar unit transferring aircraft? There is a certain lack of detail in the losses. BTW, rather than The F-4 WNr.12741, I have WNr. 12721, with WNr. 12741 being an 85% loss with II./JG 5 on 23-Feb-43.

Rottler · #5 6th May 2021, 14:09

According to GQM 6 Oct 1941 and JFV 6/II the Bf 109 F-4 WNr. 7007 was damaged 70% by gunfire from enemy aircraft on an operational flight near Kiew on 20 Sep 1941 with III./JG 52, no personal loss. Handwritten addition in the GQM BA Freiburg version: loss category 5 = Totalverlust/destroyed.

Regards
Leo

Urusut · #6 9th May 2021, 09:14

Many thanks Brian, Jim and Leo!

Kind regards,
Oleg