More unidentified oddities ZG 101 and 16./KG 40

[Johannes]

Morning guys

Two more oddities.

14th October 1943 1634 hrs B-17 Lt "Schernibner" 2./ZG 101

4th October 1943 1025 hrs B-24 Lt "Wolthaus"(this could be the actual name, it's rather clear) 16./KG 40

Keep Well

Johannes

[Chris Goss]

I have no claims at all for 16./KG 40 but a possible claim by Oblt Kurt Necesany of 14./KG 40 for at Liberator at 1025hrs on 4 Oct 43 (BZ753/53 Sqn)

[Johannes]

Hi Chris

Many thanks for your input. I have Necesany documents stating the same thing, as they are missing from the mikrofilms I assume his claim was unconfirmed, or more likely awarded to "Wolthaus" having both attacked the same aircraft.

Kind regards

Johannes

[Chris Goss]

Necesany is listed and with 14 Staffel:


04.10.43 Ltn. Kurt Necesany 14./KG 40 Liberator £ 24 West N/2764: at 300 m. 10.25 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.


While I have no Wolthaus with 16 Staffel (if that even existed) or V./KG 40

[bakerman]

14 Oct 43: Tony Wood has this as Lt. Schreiber of 2./ZG 101

[Johannes]

Hi Guys

Many thanks for your imput.

Could well be "Schreiber"

With "Wolthaus"/Necesany It's a curious one, I have ort=24West2764 and 300 m altitude, but the name certainly isn't Necesany, and although as you say improbable the unit given is 16./KG 40, absolutely a Leutnant. There are three pages of claims in the west for this day, I am looking at page 2 line 5.

Kind Regards

Johannes

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Chris Goss

While I have no Wolthaus with 16 Staffel (if that even existed) or V./KG 40

So is Mikael Holm wrong when he states a 16./KG 40 was formed in Aug 1943 and became
9./ZG 1 in Oct 1943?

Also Meyer/Stipdonk in their Die Deutsche Luftwaffe Zerstörer & Nachtjagdverbände Vol 1
says: Im Oktober 1942 wird die 16./KG 40 in 9./ZG 1 umbenannt.

Cheers
Stig