Hurricane photo

[markjsheppard]

Hi

Nice photo of a MkI Hurricane

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=120249102426

Is its code SO or SD? Looks like SO of 145 Sqn.

Can see no loses associated with it but there again it was France?

Could have been a 'left at airfield'. Shame no serial visible.

Am looking forward to getting my copy of Then and Now France next week.

Does not seem to be anything in Twelve Days in May.

Any thoughts?

regards

MS

[Fairlop]

Hi Mark,

Yes, the code should be SO, so the 145 Sqn. Evidently Mark I version. There is no Sky band on the fuselage then 1940 year. If you see the green unfolding and dry land it´s late spring / early summer.
I think the picture is about Operation Dynamo time. Maybe 27th May when Sqn was in fight with Bf 110s and lost four a/c but three pilots returned ?

Regards,
Michal

[Ex Shack]

Hi MS
The problem with 145 Sqn is that according to Jefford-RAF Squadrons they never operated in France being based at Tangmere for most of the Battle of France. They could of course have operated over France from Tangmere. SD is the marking for 501 Sqn and they were in France.
Regards
Dick

[Peter Clare]

145 Squadron lost six Hurricane I's on 27 May 1940.

P2723. P/O. A. Elson +

N2713. P/O. P H O'C. Rainier +

N2711. Sgt. A. Bailey +

N2710. F/O. D N. Forde Safe. (Returned home by sea)

P3314. P/O. E C J. Wakeman Safe. (Returned home by sea)

P2723. P/O. J H. Ashton Safe. (Returned home by sea)

'Fighter Command Losses' - Franks.

Sorry, no individual aircraft code given. Given the fact the survivours returned to the UK via sea, one could assume the squadron was operating over France.

Regards
Peter.

[Peter Cornwell]

This is almost certainly one of the No.145 Squadron aircraft lost on operations over France late May - early June 1940 and possibly, as Michal & Peter say, one of three aircraft lost on May 27 in circumstances that could match the photograph. Based at Tangmere, their 'A' Flight moved to Manston on May 17 to form a composite squadron with 'B' Flight of No.601 Squadron. They flew across to Abbeville then on to Vitry for operations on May 17 returning to England that evening and operated from Merville on the following day. These were the only two occasions that they operated from airfields in France though they also flew several sorties over France from Manston.

Hope you enjoy the book, Mark.

[markjsheppard]

Thanks for the responses.

Peter -Yes I am looking forward to the book. Did a lot of research on 73 Sqn / P3351 just to find out it was coded 'K' in France - 5 years of research!

Nice photo.

Still looking for a photo of an inverted Hurricane P2803/‘K’ of 73 sqn that P/O P E G Carter turned over on 24th May after combat with Bf110's. First combat. Probably then thought 'K was lucky.

Regards all

Mark

[Fairlop]

145 Squadron lost six Hurricane I's on 27 May 1940

Of course, a hungry man before Sunday´s lunch like me poorly read the Fighter Command Losses.

Michal

[Alex Smart]

Hi,

P2723. P/O. A. Elson +
P2723. P/O. J H. Ashton Safe. (Returned home by sea)

?

I see this in FCL vol 1 revised too.

Don't suppose that it could be P/O P.L.Parrott's Hurricane N2589 down at Little Mongeham on 26th May 40, would British have taken or been alowed to take souvenir's at this time ?
Alex

[Alex Smart]

From what I have found by cross ref over time.
21st April N2500 crashed Sussex Pilot ?
18th May N2600 P/O. Newling s/d w of Brussels -baled safe.
19th May N2598 P/O. Lucas C/L Warloy-Baillon - KIA.
Sometime in May - N2601 SOC 5/40.
26th May see P/O Parrott .
27th May P2723 P/O. Elson KIA
27th May P/O. Rainier KIA
27th May N2711 Sgt. Bailey KIA
27th May N2710 P/O. Forde safe
27th May P/O. Wakeham safe
27th May P/O. Ashton safe
1st June P2952 P/O Dixon KIA
11th July P3400 S/L Peel safe
12th July N2703 S/L Smith safe
15th July P3517 to 2121M
1st Aug P3155 S/L Kestin
8th Aug P2955 P/O Sears KIA
8th Aug P2957 P/O Wakeham KIA
8th Aug P3163 F/O Lord Kay-Shuttleworth KIA
8th Aug P3381 Sgt. Baker KIA
8th Aug P3545 S/L Smith KIA
11th Aug V7294 F/O Ostowicz KIA
11th Aug P2951 F/O Branch GC KIA
12th Aug P3391 Sgt. Kwiecnski KIA
12th Aug R4176 F/L Pankratz KIA
12th Aug R4180 P/O Harrison KIA

Alex

[markjsheppard]

UK or France?

Must be coastal with the deformation of the trees from the prevailing weather. (Leaning)

Summer wheat does on help or is it to early/late for wheat in May/June?

Building - steep roof, white render and shutters - France or UK. Not what I call English Architecture?

Well trodden patch and damaged and panel strewn Hurricane. If the UK it would have had a Home Guard of something and I doubt a Hurricane would have got to that condition.

Still think it is France.

N2710, P2723 or P3314

What do you think?

regards

Mark