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Old 1st July 2019, 11:40
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... Also, it might be worth looking through the extensive TSAMO website material on the Polish campaign for clues to places that Stab II./JG 77 was based.
This is exactly the point of my post. II./JG 77 did not participate in the Polenfeldzug.

The Gruppe moved to an unknown forward airstrip close to the German-Polish border in preparation for the Polish campaign before it was recalled to north-western Germany to protect the German Bight on 20 August 1939.

I believe that the writing on the reverse of this photo could reveal the clue what that forward airstrip may have been.

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I read Neumünster
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I read Neumünster
Possible. Thank you.
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Bit better readable


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This is exactly the point of my post. II./JG 77 did not participate in the Polenfeldzug.
The Gruppe moved to an unknown forward airstrip close to the German-Polish border in preparation for the Polish campaign before it was recalled to north-western Germany to protect the German Bight on 20 August 1939.

I believe that the writing on the reverse of this photo could reveal the clue what that forward airstrip may have been.

Regards,
Sinisa
In fact, you are looking for when did II./JG77 start to use its first emblem, aren't you ?
Then, if not Neumünster, and providing the name is this unknown forward airstrip this should be dated before end of August ... But looking at Warts' clothes ...

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Last we still have this photo coming from an old auction.
Unless it has been taken during the winter 1939-1940, which I doubt !
Hence the "Emblem adopted just before the war began" is wrong, indeed.
Most probably Winter 1938-1939, a Bf 109 B. (look at plug socket position)

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In fact, you are looking for when did II./JG77 start to use its first emblem, aren't you ?
Then, if not Neumünster, and providing the name is this unknown forward airstrip this should be dated before end of August ... But looking at Warts' clothes ...

Good luck !
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Franck.
Thank you, Franck. Now, your assessment is partially correct - I was indeed looking for the pre-war photographic evidence of the early II./JG 77 emblem,... albeit sported on the Emils.

Now, I am well aware of the said emblem being sported on the Gruppe's Bf 109 B aircraft (after all I was successful bidder for both photos from your post 16). Then the Gruppe converted onto the Bf 109 E aircraft in April/May 1939, and I could not find evidence of the emblem being sported on the Emils before the outbreak of hostilities. We are talking some 4-to-5 month gap in this respect.

I was hoping that this photo would assist my research, but your reading (i.e., Neumünster) would appear correct, so I am back to square one here.

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Old 1st July 2019, 16:56
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FWIW:

20.8 39: II./JG 77 transferred to Nordholz
4.9.39: first engagement - claimed 2 RAF Wellingtons in the Wilhelmshaven area.
21.9.39: II./JG 77 transferred to Neumünster,

Prien, Jochen. Einsatz des Jagdgeschwaders 77 von 1939 bis 1945: Ein Kriegstagebuch nach Dokumenten, Berichten und Erinnerungen. 4 Teile (volumes). Eutin: Struve-Druck, 1992-93. Teil 1 (1934 bis Mai 1941, ISBN: 3-923457-19-7). Teil 2 (Juni 1941 bis November 1942, ISBN: 3-923457-22-7). Teil 3 (1942-1943). Teil 4 (1944-1945, ISBN: 3-923457-29-4). Hb (oversize). Dj. 2,507p. Heavily illus. Maps. Dwgs. Tables. Numerous appendices incl. loss and victory lists. Name index.

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I post the following only in the interest of teasing out the correct individual characters.

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Thank you, Franck. Now, your assessment is partially correct - I was indeed looking for the pre-war photographic evidence of the early II./JG 77 emblem,... albeit sported on the Emils.

Now, I am well aware of the said emblem being sported on the Gruppe's Bf 109 B aircraft (after all I was successful bidder for both photos from your post 16). Then the Gruppe converted onto the Bf 109 E aircraft in April/May 1939, and I could not find evidence of the emblem being sported on the Emils before the outbreak of hostilities. We are talking some 4-to-5 month gap in this respect.

I was hoping that this photo would assist my research, but your reading (i.e., Neumünster) would appear correct, so I am back to square one here.

Regards,
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Now I understand all your quest !
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