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Old 12th February 2018, 03:56
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MACR's 15673 & 15677

Hello,
I have looked in Fold3 at both MACR's.
They do not give much away.
However
MACR 15673 has pilot as ANDERS.
MACR 15677 has pilot as McHUGH.

My reason for the question is twofold.

McHUGH.
Firstly correspondence from the mother of Archie B. Tomlinson suggests that he was co-pilot in the a/c on the fatal flight.
However the NoK address list has his name at the top, so to me suggests that he was the pilot and not McHugh.

ANDERS
Volume 3 of "the history of the MEDITERRANEAN AIR WAS 1940-1945" has the following.
Page 368
Monday 1st March 1943.
US Casualties
415BS/98BG
B24D 41-23789 Thunderbird shot down over Naples; 1/Lt. Virgil M. Anders and eight crew Mia.
And on
Page 392
Thursday 18th March 1943
US Casualties
415BS/98BG
B24D 41-23789 Zombie shot down near Naples ; 2Lt. Harry K. McHugh and nine crew Mia.
There is an annotation though.
Not 41-11789 as stated in vol 2.

So I would not expect that the same a/c 41-23789 would have been shot down with loss of crew on two different dates and two different crews and two different artwork/names ?

Has this been resolved yet ?

I just checked B-24 Nose Art Name Directory , and for "Zombie" 98BG/415BS, the serial number is given as being 41-11790, photo(s) exists, but didn't this a/c survived the war ?

Thanks
Alex

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Old 12th February 2018, 13:19
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Re: MACR's 15673 & 15677

For your information, Vittorio Minguzzi (22° gruppo) claimed a B24 shot down near Capri island on 1st March 1943 (17:30). He was flying a Dewoitine D.520.
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Old 12th February 2018, 14:45
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Re: MACR's 15673 & 15677

Hello Roncosano,
Many thanks for the info re the D.520, it backs up the same detail in the book Mediterranean Air War vol 2.
Thank you
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Old 12th February 2018, 23:09
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Re: MACR's 15673 & 15677

Hello,
Had a look at taracopp.com documents today.
Found that for the 1st March 1943, ANDERS , pilot with VanWinkle, co-pilot were in a/c 789.
So this must have been 41-23789 -"K", or 41-11789 -"F" ?
Also for the 18th March 1943, McHugh pilot with Tomlinson co-pilot were in a/c 798.
So this must have been 41-11798 - "F".

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Re: MACR's 15673 & 15677

FYI, the 41-11789 is an C-87 Liberator Express used by ATC, United Airlines.

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