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Old 6th December 2010, 15:53
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INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Hi,

Could anyone provide information over the loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber. Hwas killed in an airdeath on the 31st December 1941.

I believe he was a fighter pilot with JG52 and was killed 3km south of Merkutschewa in Russia.

Can you provide details about his aircraft and how he was killed.

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Old 6th December 2010, 18:29
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

1-1-1942 bei Wjasna Crash due to icing of Fw 58 2184 of I/JG52 on an 'H' flight - Ff Uffz Bernhard Sareiake, B Ltn Siegfried Wikesek, Bm Uffz Johann Bauhuber, Bf Uffz Walter Kuhn all killed.
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Old 6th December 2010, 20:11
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Thanks Brian but what is an 'H Flight'?

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Old 6th December 2010, 21:06
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Hi Rick,

The loss returns define a flight by 'F' for Feindflug which is an operational/combat flight or mission, or 'H' for Heimat flight which is a training ,exercise, or transfer flight. So this flight could have been something like a communication flight,

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Old 4th January 2012, 14:13
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Hi,

Bauhuber was an experienced flier with medals and missions over Pol;and, France, England and Russia. Was he wounded and on ambulance flight or was he instructor?

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Old 4th January 2012, 16:48
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Brian

Barbas has quite different spelling of two of the involved pilots.
Uffz Bernhard Serzisko
Lt Siegfried Mikosek

He also lists Walter Kuhn as a Fw.

Were there only two types of flying at the front, F and H? To me what first springs to mind by using the term Heimat flight is that this is a flight home to have some leave.

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Old 4th January 2012, 18:03
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Stig,

The GQM entries are ofton smudged or hard to read. I have looked this one up again and as far as I can make out it is Ff Uffz Bernhard Sereiske ( although the last e of the surname could be an o), I still see the B as Ltn Siegfried Wikesek ( again the first e in the surname could be an o and the W could be an N I do not read it as an M). My mistake with Walter Kuhn who is shown as a Fw. As far as I understand the 'H' indicating a Heimat flight appears to indicate any non-operational flight such as a training, communication or transfer flight, I think this has been covered before in a previous thread.,

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Old 4th January 2012, 18:16
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Rick, the Fw 58 was one of the type used as servitude planes by frontline units, to carry personnel and small amounts of supplies between bases. It was often used to carry pilots as passengers to a rear area base, from where they will fly new replacement aircraft. Or it could be a base change and the unit had more pilots than aircraft (something very usual), so some pilots will be flown as passengers in this kind of plane.

On the other hand, Bauhuber is not shown as a pilot or a passenger but as a flying engineer in the losslist.
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Old 4th January 2012, 20:34
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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

Thanks Brian

I notice Barbas has opted to use the same names as once used by Niko Fast in his six volume JG 52 history

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Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941

In NVM the names are Mikosek and Serzisko.

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