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Old 16th February 2013, 21:00
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8/NJG1 loss 17-Dec-44

Seeking crew names for Bf110 G9+CS its Bs was the subject of ADI(K) report 684/1944 with no crew names show. The aircraft was hit by AA and the order to bale out given the Bs coming down 20 miles north of Maastricht at 1900hrs on 17th.Dec. ADI(K) Further Report 705/1944 then shows that the unnamed Bf was later taken prisoner but no sign of the pilot or aircraft was found, any more details appreciated,

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Old 16th February 2013, 22:18
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Re: 8/NJG1 loss 17-Dec-44

[quote=Brian Bines;162292]Seeking crew names for Bf110 G9+CS its Bs was the subject of ADI(K) report 684/1944 with no crew names show. The aircraft was hit by AA and the order to bale out given the Bs coming down 20 miles north of Maastricht at 1900hrs on 17th.Dec. ADI(K) Further Report 705/1944 then shows that the unnamed Bf was later taken prisoner but no sign of the pilot or aircraft was found, any more details appreciated,

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I have 3 names
Ofhr. Kurt Stöcker Returnes to german lines.
Uffz. Johann Althoff POW
Uffz. Horst Schneider POW
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Old 16th February 2013, 23:07
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Re: 8/NJG1 loss 17-Dec-44

Thank you very much for supplying the names which now completes my record,

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Old 17th February 2013, 22:36
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Re: 8/NJG1 loss 17-Dec-44

Hi there,

I looked it up in the book Deutsche Nachtjagd losses of Michael Balss it says for the night of the 17 december 1944 two losses where noted

1e Bf-110 G4 730354 G9+IP of 6/NJG1 crashed at Elsloo,N v Maastricht due to combat with enemy bombers,crew where uffz Bernhard Tegethoff FF +,uffz Heinrich Becker BF +,and ogefr Willi Behrendt BS +

2e Ju-88 G1 714369 1L+VL of 3/NJG10 crashed at Venray cause unknown,crew was
ofw Helmut Ferber FF +,fw Willy Wischnewski BF +,uffz Willi Zimmermann BF +,fw Wilhelm Kolertz BS +

so i dont know wich one you mean?

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Old 17th February 2013, 23:16
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Re: 8/NJG1 loss 17-Dec-44

Chris,

Thanks for looking this up although I do not think this one is in Michael's book. It would appear that the Bs and Bf, as named in Fran's answer, baled out over Allied territory and were taken prisoner while the pilot Ofhr. Stocker either flew home, after regaining control or baled out over German territory and returned to his unit,

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Old 27th February 2013, 01:42
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Re: 8/NJG1 loss 17-Dec-44

Bf 110G-4, 730346, Stöcker, Ofhr. Kurt, , III., 8., NJG 1, , G9+CS, , , 17-Dec-44, Blinded by spotlight and in spin Bf & Bs ordered to FSA. F recovered and returned. Crew POW., , Lfl.Reich/Nachtjagd, WASt; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/1170, p.38; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.398; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.21, Cornelissen, Huzaren van de Nacht, I, p.256, Sittard, b, F, Bf Uffz. Johann Althoff & Bs Uffz. Horst Schneider, ,
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