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Old 21st May 2019, 19:07
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He 111 lost 3-12-1943

GQM dated 29-12-1943 page 4 has the loss to fighter action of a He 111 H at Civita- Castellana on 3-12-43 giving the unit as RestKommando KGr.z.b.V. 25 , crew details :-

Ff Fw Karl Schmidt + dob 1-6-18
Bf Uffz Walter Bretthauer + born 1920
Bm Gef Georg Hanchen + Umlaut over 'a' dob 21-3-23
Bs Ofw Heinz Seemann + dob 11-6-15

The Grabesuche site gives the date of death of these airmen as 3-12-1943 with all being buried at Pomezia in separate graves. A previous thread said 8 passengers were also all killed in the crash. Are any more details known about the fighter action and the unit , I thought KGr.z.b.v.25 was not operational at this time ,

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Old 21st May 2019, 19:18
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Re: He 111 lost 3-12-1943

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I thought KGr.z.b.v.25 was not operational at this time ,

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I'm not sure thats necessarily incompatible with a Restkommando still flying. The word implies a detachment "left over" or "remaining" after the main body has gone.
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Old 21st May 2019, 19:37
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Re: He 111 lost 3-12-1943

Christopher Shores with others in their Volume IV of the series of books entitled A History of the Mediterranean Air War 1940 - 1945, on page 457 allocate the claim to the US 522 FBS/27 FBG, Maj. J.A. Kelly, flying A-36.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 10:19
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Nick and Sidney thank you both for your help and information ,

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