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Old 11th December 2018, 21:35
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Re: Bf-110 losses 2.4.44 Upper Austria

Do not forget the copies of original manuals from Archiv Hafner. He is listing a considerable CD of the Bf110 documents, including Ersatzteileliste. Cheers

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Old 11th December 2018, 21:44
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Do not forget the copies of original manuals from Archiv Hafner. He is listing a considerable CD of the Bf110 documents, including Ersatzteileliste. Cheers

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Does he have the entire directory of the Bf-110 G?
Then it would be useful to buy the directory to be able to determine the exact location of the parts.
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Re: Bf-110 losses 2.4.44 Upper Austria

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Hi Snautzer,
For example this parts like attached
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1st marking of the metal (inspector stamp) no mmt
2 nd 110.772 build group: cant find it for G2, G3, G4 but is a group in F2, F3, F4 and relates to triebwerksverkleidung linker gondel


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Re: Bf-110 losses 2.4.44 Upper Austria

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Does he have the entire directory of the Bf-110 G?
Then it would be useful to buy the directory to be able to determine the exact location of the parts.
Go see the website! If the 110 Ersatzteilliste is a similar compilation to the 109, you will find that the minor model changes are issued as updates to the main type changes. Also, the main component group numbers remain similar so, you can identify what general group a part is from.

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Re: Bf-110 losses 2.4.44 Upper Austria

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Go see the website! If the 110 Ersatzteilliste is a similar compilation to the 109, you will find that the minor model changes are issued as updates to the main type changes. Also, the main component group numbers remain similar so, you can identify what general group a part is from.

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Thanks for your explaination. I have now ordered the complete documentation of the Bf-110 from Mr.Hafner.
I'm very curious what's in it.
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1st marking of the metal (inspector stamp) no mmt
2 nd 110.772 build group: cant find it for G2, G3, G4 but is a group in F2, F3, F4 and relates to triebwerksverkleidung linker gondel


...part attached could be also from a "F" Type Bf-110 ?
Then I am on the wrong track, because I always thought it would be a "G" as described by DonaldMcClure on 2.4.1944. But in the list of Matti there are only "G" models and no "F". That means the found parts are not from one of the crashes on 2.4.1944.

That's misterious now because I have no idea which plane or crew it was.
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Re: Bf-110 losses 2.4.44 Upper Austria

Hello, everybody.
Maybe the story of "my" BF-110 can be solved completely together? I now know with great certainty that the parts of the Bf-110 that crashed on 2.4.1944 (Palm Sunday was a holy day here in Austria) were part of it and even photos and a book prove that. (attached)
But it's strange that I have a part on the left engine fairing with the part number 110.772-010 which would be a Bf-110F and not a "G"(I also bought Mr Hafner's archives. Definitv also here a part of a "F") like in Matti's loss list. But probably 1944 also parts of wrecks were used or the airplanes from different parts repaired.
I found some more lists on the web which prove for the 2.4.1944 launch. That means it could be also one of these airplanes, deviating from the list Matti.

for example:

2. April 1944
U.S. XV Bomber Command: [B-24s] STEYR, MOSTAR, BIHAC,
[B-17s] STEYR, BROD
JaFü Ostmark/Lfl. Reich:
02.04.44 Hptm. Wengner 5./ZG 1 P-38  14 Ost N/EI-2: 3.000 m. [Grünberg S. Linz] 11.15 Film C. 2027/I VNE: ASM
02.04.44 Ofw. Karlstein: i.Züs.Wirk. 2./ZG 76 B-17  S.W. Linz: 5.000 m. 11.15 Film C. 2027/I Anerk. 9
02.04.44 Uffz. Nolte 4./ZG 76 B-17  N.W. Steyr: 7.000 m. 11.26 Film C. 2027/I VNE: ASM
02.04.44 Oblt. Rolf Westhoff 4./ZG 1 B-17  14 Ost N/EI: 6.000 m. 11.35 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.25
02.04.44 Fw. Wettklein [sic] 6./ZG 1 B-17  14 Ost N/EI: 6.000 m. 11.35 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.53
02.04.44 Fhr. Hausser 4./ZG 1 B-17  14 Ost N/HJ-5: 6.000 m. 11.36 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.26
02.04.44 Ofw. Linnenbecker 5./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/GI-3: 6.000 m. 11.42 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.44
02.04.44 Oblt. Zweigg 5./ZG 1 Liberator  14 Ost N/FJ-4: 4.600 m. 11.47 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.45
02.04.44 Oblt. Rolf Westhoff 4./ZG 1 B-24  14 Ost N/FJ-7: 6.000 m. 11.47 Film C. 2027/I Anerk: Nr.24

Do you have any idea which aircraft / Werknummer and crew it was exactly or where you could ask for it? Many thanks

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