Captured Fw190 photo

[John Manrho]

mmmmmm....Halle.....so "schwarze 3"...???

[Broncazonk]

Originally Posted by veltro

IMHO could also easily be one of the several "dots" on the original negative which are spread throughout this fantastic photo or even maybe a bullet hole...

I'm thinking it's too big and perfect to be a defect in the negative, or to be a war wound.

Update: this circular access hatch (plug) opening is illustrated and documented in the 1:48 scale drawings (and the Focke Wulf repair manual drawings) in Focke Wulf Fw 190D No. 7 by AJ Press. It appears to provide hand and tool access to service the tail wheel actuating mechanism. (Although the oxygen cylinders are quite close to that opening as well. So it might be the access point to refill those cylinders.)

Time for the experts...

[David E. Brown]

Hi John,

Could be. The national markings indicate a machine from the 600XXX werknummer series. Need to see if this image could be matched with photos of other similar kites.

Cheers,

David

[Broncazonk]

<<Is there any interest in posting this photo over on the "Allied and Soviet Air Forces Forum" with a view towards identifying the Russians? At least one (the soldier seated on the tire) and maybe three of them are Order of the Red Star recipients.>>

[photo-war]

Broncazonk, this photo came from a photo album 116th Guardian Fighter Aviation Regiment engineer (ground personnel), his name is known to me, he is Red Star order recipient as well.

A thought concerning image defect may be correct, several photos have such black spots of various shape. Note this photo from the same album, ‘black spot’ defect appears on soldier’s overseas cap.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...403#post200403

[Tomas Prusa]

To photo war -Thank you for sharing this nice photo. This circular opening in extension plug is not photo defect, it is circular access hatch as Broncazonk right said in his comment. You can see this hatch on my attachement. source: Fw190D ersatzteil-liste 1944
I think, John Manrho is right with JG6 black 3. When I comparing mottling around vertical bar and camouflage style around balkenkreuze, I think this matched well with known photos of this a/c.
some photos to compare from expired ebay auctions
1. http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1037984
2. http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1038150
3. http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1038152
4. http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1038148
5. http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1038149

[RolandF]

The WNr is not known to me - neither from the JaPo nor from the Crandall publications. Is it 601095?

Regards

Roland

[PhilippeDM]

John, Tomas

I think tou are right on the spot for identification of this plane. Not only the mottle camoufalge seems to match, even the bright spot under the forward windshield is present.

Fabulous picture...

[Tomas Prusa]

To RolandF - According to Japo is WNr.600422 which comparing to known photos dont match. WNr.looks to be 601090 - combination of ebay photo http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1037984 and photo from Jerry Crandall Dora vol.1. p.258.
text from Japo source: Fw190D camouflage and markings part II, M.Deboeck, E.Larger, T.Poruba, JaPo, 2007, p.320

[RolandF]

Thx Tomas, for the clarification. That's exactly the problem I had with the identification by JaPo in contrary to my own eyes.
So 600422 must have been a different Dora. Are there any photos with this WNr visible? (No access to my ref material at the very moment)

Regards

RolandF