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Old 3rd December 2021, 22:28
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Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

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A6+EH flown by Ltn Osthus was shot down/rammed by a P-39 piloted by Lt J. Shaffer of 33rd Pursuit Squadron off Iceland. Has anyone the story, please?

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Old 4th December 2021, 11:57
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

Brian,

More details here: https://www.stridsminjar.is/en/a-lis...ctober-18-1942

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Old 4th December 2021, 15:48
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

Many thanks once again, Leendert

Do we know what happened to the damaged P-39?

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Old 4th December 2021, 16:20
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

Somewhere I have a copy of the US combat report, will go looking for it. It has a transcript of radio transmissions between the P-39s and airbase. It has probably been 20 years or more since I have looked at the report, but my memory is that the P-39 returned to base. The report also has 10 or more photos of the crash site some of which are in the link above.
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Old 4th December 2021, 16:31
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

Brian,

A little story about this Ju-88 here as well: https://ferlir.is/svinadalur-irafell...-flugvelaflak/

Scroll down to where the English text starts ("In October 1942 Joseph Shaffer etc...").

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Old 4th December 2021, 19:23
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Re: Ju 88 D-5 W.Nr. 088 1725 A6+EH 1.(F)/120 rammed 18 October 1942

"to correct facts".
I did indeed send the material on this crash to Mr. Eggert many years ago. I never promised microfilm references as the material did not come from microfilm, but rather a copy of the original report.
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Old 4th December 2021, 21:13
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

Thanks guys

Ed - may I use your quote in my forthcoming book please - with due acknowledgement?

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Old 7th December 2021, 11:36
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

This is not my field of interest, but have you seen the "records of sorties flown on the rudder of A6+EH"?

It seems there is an "Tail Art" at the top as well as at least 2 (British?) Baloons destroyed on the fin...I can not count the total sorties, but it seems they were divided by Country? We do have some sorties on the top right corner and some on the low left corner of the fin.

By chance, is there ANY other image of this A6+EH before the crash or being shot down? Was it a regular machine of Leutnant Osthus ?

Nice imagery by the way...
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Old 7th December 2021, 13:45
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Re: Ju88 A6+EH i.(F)/120 lost 18/10/42

Yes, there are more images of this aircraft, both after crash and before, IIRC showing an earlier version of the tally on the rudder and the a/c from different angles. I have not seen any source material that would indicate this was the regular machine of a particular crew, but that is not a particular interest of mine. Speculating, the Iceland missions were near the limits of capability and it might seem likely the crew for these missions might be a special one selected for it's skill and thus the same for these missions , as was the a/c.


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