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Old 12th February 2007, 17:50
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Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Hi,

Just how many Vickers Wellingtons went to the USA and what became of them ?

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Old 19th February 2007, 01:12
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Dear Alex.

I have the weekly activities roster of Foreign aircraft, inlcuding captured aircraft evaluated in the USA, from 16 October 1943 to 25 December 1944. It details many aircraft type (British, German, Italian & Japanese) the project engineer, location and remarks.

There is no mention of any Vickers Wellington on status during this time period.

Let me dig out another listing of British aircraft at Wright Field prior to the above period, and I will get back to you.

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Old 27th February 2007, 22:11
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Hi both;

One Wellington flew westbound via Iceland in 1941.
(First Westbound crossing by landplane via Iceland).
Z8771 dep Reykjavik for Gander, Newfoundland in late evening 21.08.1941 - landing there early in the morning next day. ´Reverse-Lend-Lease´ I belive. It went to USA - Wright Field likely - but may have been out of action by Oct 1943.

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Old 23rd June 2020, 18:08
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Found it on Wright Field film, very much like find more detailed, preferably with serial visible. I seem remember seeing colour pic in a magazine in good old 1980s. -Ed


Link 31853.wmv

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Old 26th June 2020, 23:28
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Thanks Ed, its been a long time since I posted the question. I always thought that there were perhaps more than just one
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Old 26th June 2020, 23:43
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

There is mention of several British aircraft at Wright Field in this 1941 article (near top of center column).


https://books.google.com/books?id=9y...terest&f=false
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Old 27th June 2020, 12:20
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Bruce Robertson RAF serial book (Midland 1987) has them Wellington Mk.IC Z8771 and Z8772, latter be DW.1 (DWI ?) version. Two flew out in August 41 (by OADU) via Reykjavik and Gander, I have both arrival times in Reykjavik, but not tie-up or departure of first one (Arrived from Prestwick 30.07.41) but other "Experimental Long Range Wellington" flew west 21/22.08.41. Mk.IV is discussed below but MK.IC engine cowlings show in video. One Wellington shows twice in video if you look closely.

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http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...t-Wright-Field

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Old 13th July 2020, 02:51
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall...ngton-z8772-7/


Looks Z8772 was not a DWI
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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Hello,

Z8772, was definitely not a Wellington DWI/II.

Known Data on Vickers Wellington Types 418 and 419 (DWIs & DWIIs):

Mark IA
Vickers Type: 418.
Description: DWI Mark I - Engine/Generator, Ford V8
Engines: Pegasus XVII
Conversions - 4 from Mk IA.
Initial conversions from Mk IAs were: P2518, P2521, P2522 and P9223.

Mks -Various.
Vickers Type: 419.
Description: DWI Mk.II - Engine/Generator - DH Gipsy VI
Engines: Pegasus XVII
Conversions - 4 from Type 418, 11 conversions from Mk I, 1 conversion from Mk IC.
A further 12 DW I, Mk IIs were flown: L4212, L4221, L4227, L4235, L4352, L4356, L4358. L4374, L4391, L7771. R2701 and HX682.

Sources:
Reference List and Notes (pp.1-6) pertaining to: Vickers Wellington - Owners' Workshop Manual - 1936 to 1953 (all marks and models): An insight into the history, development, production and role of the Second World War RAF bomber aircraft
Murray,Iain R.
Sparkford:Haynes Publishing,2012.
NB. This information (on p.2 of 6), is provided by the author separately from the book. The Haynes manual format does not permit the inclusion of footnotes or references, but the following references pertain to the book as printed.

Those wishing to access this valuable information, can do so here:

http://www.sirbarneswallis.com/files...References.pdf

Col.

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Re: Vickers Wellingtons in the USA

Thanks Col.Bruggy,

Ed

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