Curtiss P-40 top ten ace list

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by BruceMk11

Caldwell's invented DOB: 28/7/1911. This can be seen in his digitised service file (p 25) at the NAA.

Cheers Bruce

[knusel]

Originally Posted by BruceMk11

Caldwell's invented DOB: 28/7/1911. This can be seen in his digitised service file (p 25) at the NAA.

Good evening Bruce,

thanks for your answer.
Have you noticed that wikipedia tells the story about the fake but nonetheless indicates the faked date of birth in the parentheses and in the profile ? ;-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Caldwell
It surprises me that one year made the difference between being accepted into fighter training and not being accepted.

Have a nice Thursday,

Michael

[knusel]

Hello there Gentlemen,

by courtesy of Jim and Russ I learned more about the locations of the kills of the P-40 aces over Australia&Oceania. Thus, I could complete my breakdown of top P-40 pilots by continent.

The top P-40 pilots on each continent were:
• Africa: Clive Caldwell 20,5 P-40 kills over Libya and Egypt (includes ½ kill during convoy patrol)
• Europe: Nikolai Zelenov 19,23 P-40 kills over the European part of Russia
• Asia: David Hill 13,25 P-40 kills over Malaysia, Myanmar and China
• Australia & Oceania: Ernest Harris 10 P-40 kills over Papua New Guinea
• America: John Cape and Kenneth Boomer 1 P-40 kill over Alaska each (and any other pilot who scored one P-40 kill over Alaska)

I wonder if the location of Clive Caldwell's convoy patrol kill (16Aug1941) can still be determined.

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by knusel

Hello there Gentlemen,

by courtesy of Jim and Russ I learned more about the locations of the kills of the P-40 aces over Australia&Oceania. Thus, I could complete my breakdown of top P-40 pilots by continent.

The top P-40 pilots on each continent were:
• Africa: Clive Caldwell 20,5 P-40 kills over Libya and Egypt (includes ½ kill during convoy patrol)
• Europe: Nikolai Zelenov 19,23 P-40 kills over the European part of Russia
• Asia: David Hill 13,25 P-40 kills over Malaysia, Myanmar and China
• Australia & Oceania: Ernest Harris 10 P-40 kills over Papua New Guinea
• America: John Cape and Kenneth Boomer 1 P-40 kill over Alaska each (and any other pilot who scored one P-40 kill over Alaska)

I wonder if the location of Clive Caldwell's convoy patrol kill (16Aug1941) can still be determined.

Have a nice weekend,

Michael

The kill did not take place on 16 August, it took place on 18 August 1941 and was claimed as a damaged. Sgt. R T C Whittle claimed a probable in the same engagement. The convoy was off Ras-el-Mil
On the other side of the coin Hermann Foerster of 2./JG 27 shot down AK554 of Sgt. G M McCullough KIA (badly damaged, crashed on landing)
Location of Foerster's kill was E of Ras Azzaz

SO: LOCATION = Ras el Mil - Ras Azzaz sector

According to Kristen Alexander, the kill is recorded in 250 sqn's ORB as 19 August.

Sources:
Clive Caldwell Air Ace by Kristen Alexander
A History of the Mediterranean Air War vol 1 by Shores, Massimello and Guest

It has to be said....
...Making the outlay and buying some of the better sources would do you good, Michael, and it's not the first time you've been told that.

[John Beaman]

Nick it is not your provenance to make such statements. Either answer the point directly or do not. You are not the judge of whether anyone needs more references or whatever.

One more of these snotty comments is going to get you banned.

[KM1957]

The 81st did not fly P-39's while in the CBI, they had P-47's. In fact, I do not believe any unit in the CBI had P-39's. Take a look at Osprey's P-39 Aces book for more information on where P-39's scored.

Kent

[knusel]

I worked through the P-39 volume of OSPREY's Aircraft of the Aces series and found no trace of a P-39 kill over Asia, no Western New Guinea kills, no Phillipines kills and no CBI kills were mentioned.
The notion that the P-39 scored 5 CBI kills is from here:
https://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/...torieswwii.htm
See also my P-39 thread:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=47977