Alfred Schreiber, 1st jet ace

[Karoband]

Hi Nick,

With regard to the mid-air collision on 29.10.44 it is in dispute:

http://forum.12oclockghigh.net/showthread.php?t=1619

best regards,

Jim

[focusfocus]

Hello all

What are your sources "guy" for the claim of 24/08 ?
I have the books of Manfred Boehme and john Foreman and "co",and none of the two does not cite a claim on 24/08 by Schreiber but rather on 26/08.
According to them,the only claim by a Me.262 on 24/08 is a P-38 by the Obfw.Baudach.

michel

[Karoband]

Hi Michel,

From Tony Woods:

"...
Ja Fu 7. Jagddivision/ Lfl. Reich:
24.08.44 n.n. Erp. Kdo. PR Spitfire - GC-5: 8.000m. [N.W. Innsbruck Area] 10:55 Film C.2025/I Anerk: Nr. 3.

Supplemental Claims from Sources:
24.08.44 Ofw. Helmut Baudach Erp. Kdo. 262 P-38 - - Reference W.J.A.W. Mss.
..."

You are quite right. I should not have categorically stated that Schreiber made a claim on 24 August. However, I do think that this is the claim mistakenly given the date 26 August. Unfortunately I cannot edit my previous post now. I promise to be more careful before I share again.

Jim

[Nick Hector]

Originally Posted by Karoband

Hi Michel,

From Tony Woods:

"...
Ja Fu 7. Jagddivision/ Lfl. Reich:
24.08.44 n.n. Erp. Kdo. PR Spitfire - GC-5: 8.000m. [N.W. Innsbruck Area] 10:55 Film C.2025/I Anerk: Nr. 3.

Supplemental Claims from Sources:
24.08.44 Ofw. Helmut Baudach Erp. Kdo. 262 P-38 - - Reference W.J.A.W. Mss.
..."

You are quite right. I should not have categorically stated that Schreiber made a claim on 24 August. However, I do think that this is the claim mistakenly given the date 26 August. Unfortunately I cannot edit my previous post now. I promise to be more careful before I share again.

Jim

All good, Jim. A mistake anyone could make

[Karoband]

Thanks, Nick

[omer mees]

Hi all

I am new on this forum ;this is my first post.

On 15 august 1944 a DH98 Mosquito PR IX of 60(south African Air Force) squadron was flying a photo-recon mission over Southern Germany.
It was crewed by Capt.Pi Pienaar and Lt.Archie Lockhart-Ross.
In the area around Leipheim it was intercepted and attacked by a single Me 262.In the ensuing and prolonged aerial combat,the Mosquito was severely damaged but managed to escape and make its way back to its home base in Italy where it was written off in a crash landing ;both crew members walked away unhurt.The Mosquito ,however returned with valuable photographic evidence of the Me 262 in operation.

In his 1982 book "Dancing the Skies" the South African historian and writer Carel Birksby devotes a chapter to the above encounter. In a footnote he mentions that Pi Pienaar,many years later,met Wolfgang Schenk in South West Africa (now Namibia) and they exchanged some war time experiences.According to Birkby ,Schenk told Pienaar that the pilot who flew the Me 262 on that fateful day was Alfred Schreiber.

The same encounter is described in Foreman and Harvey's Me 262 combat diary.They also mention the meeting between Pienaar and Schenk but they state that Schenk did not remember the name of the Me 262 pilot but that he recalled that he was later killed flying an Me 262.

Other sources on the net claim that it was indeed Alfred Schreiber, probably flying "130 017" (white 4) ,who attacked Pienaar's Mosquito.

I would love to know if there were any claims on 15 aug1944 by Me 262 pilots of 8./ZG 26 (Ekdo 262) for damaging or downing a Mosquito in the area where this encounter took place.

Any info on this matter would be most welcome.

[Kutscha]

Guys, I would still like to learn more about Alfred Schreiber's history before he flew the Me262.