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Old 2nd August 2006, 16:39
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VVS: high OoB-figures for 22.06 1941

There is this table , which in excerpt looks like the quote below.
My quetion now is: Are these high numbers realistic? Altogether, it would mean that
- the VVS had 9200 A/C on the western part of the USSR
- 1200 AC = one quarter of the fighters were MiG, Yak, LaGG
Is that realistic?

Especially strange I find that single xAP's have such high numbers of planes. 60 or even mroe are nothing special, while later in teh war the VVS had xAP's with 20-40, sometimes even less AC.

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Belarus:
Karachaev
223DBAP=6DB-3F
Bryansk
219DBAP=48DB-3F
Shaikovka
3TBAP=41TB-3
Sestcha
3TBAP=52TB-3
Shatalovo
98DBAP=70DB-3F
Smolensk
212DBAP=61DB-3F
215BAP=15I-15
Borovskoye
96DBAP=50DB-3F
207DBAP=16DB-3F
Mogilev
162IAP=54I-16
163IAP=59I-16
Balbasovo
209BAP=25Su-2
160IAP=66I-153
161IAP=64Lagg-3
Vitebsk
43BAP=46Su-2
6BAP=19SB-2
Ulla
128BAP=41SB-2
Lepel
161RAP=42I-16
Zyabovka
162RAP=64I-16
Sleplyanka
313RAP=20SB-2
Byhov
121BAP=56SB-2
125BAP=38SB
Baranovichi
314RAP=5SB,28Yak-2
Strigovo
123IAP=61I-153=20Yak-1
Bobrovichi
130BAP=38SB
Pinsk
39BAP=43SB-2,9Pe-2
Pruzany
33IAP=44I-1674ShAP,62I-153=8IL-2
Belsk
126IAP=50Mig-3,23I-16
Zabludovo
129IAP=61Mig-3,57I-153
Ros
13BAP=51SB-2,8Pe-2
Zeludok
16BAP=24SB-2,37Pe-2
Lida
122IAP=75I-16
Skidel
127IAP=72I-153
Belostok
44IAP=57Mig-1,22I-16
124IAP=70Mig-3,29I-16
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Old 2nd August 2006, 19:27
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Re: VVS: high OoB-figures for 22.06 1941

YES,
you have given smaller figures

On 22 VI 1941 could be on 5 Western Militari Districts about 10.700 comabt planes (servicable and non servicable), you have remaber that civil aviation had aditional several hundreds on these districs too (after begining of war they were incorporated into military aviation (transport) it is plus aditional several hundreds palnes and last quite small independednt is avaition of NKVD (a few hundreds 100-300?).
So the figure of about 11.000 military planes on 5 militariy districs is not so low as you think.

Remeber that whole power of VVS on June 1941 in Russia had about 25.000 planes (all:combat, training) and a factory had supplied each week next hundreds planes to the units

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In 1941 Soviet regiment had nominal power of 63 planes, in the Wester MD the old planes were not withdrown to the back or other units but Russian had left these planes of the airfield when the new types had come to the regiemnts. S in these regiment (mostly fighters) there were duble amount of planes (about 80-120) = old and ne palnes (like I-16 and MiG-3).
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Re: VVS: high OoB-figures for 22.06 1941

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Originally Posted by Mirek Wawrzynski
In 1941 Soviet regiment had nominal power of 63 planes, in the Wester MD the old planes were not withdrown to the back or other units but Russian had left these planes of the airfield when the new types had come to the regiemnts. S in these regiment (mostly fighters) there were duble amount of planes (about 80-120) = old and ne palnes (like I-16 and MiG-3).
OK, that is new to me. Thanks!
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