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Old 24th March 2015, 01:03
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Crew positions? Do 17P loss 01.11.1940

Hi Guy's,

I am searching for the crew positions and fates regarding a Do 17P loss at Jersey on the 01.11.1940. The aircraft's Wnr. is 4086 and one of the crew was Karl Kramer. Hope someone has the details.

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Old 24th March 2015, 07:12
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Re: Crew positions? Do 17P loss 01.11.1940

This is what I have. Obviously one of the BMs should be Bordfunker.

1940-11-01, 2.(F)/123, Do 17 P, 4086, 4U+AK, St.Queens Bay, bei Insel Jersey, Absturz in See infolge Motorschaden. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Kramer, Werner, +
Beobachter Lt Göhringer, Wilhelm, +
Bordmechaniker Gefr Pfiffner, Benno, +
Bordmechaniker Uffz Grünmüller, Karl, +

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Re: Crew positions? Do 17P loss 01.11.1940

Put Gerhard Schinkel into the search box and a previous thread on this one comes up.
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Re: Crew positions? Do 17P loss 01.11.1940

Thanks very much Matti and Brian!

The Gerhard Schinkel theory is a very interesting one, as a post in the other thread states that it was a five man crew! Was he the Bordfunker? I have attached one of a number of images that were sent to me which shows one of the crew on a stretcher getting medical help!

Interesting indeed!

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