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Old 2nd July 2015, 08:16
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JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

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On 30 January 1944, Hawker Typhoons of 198 Squadron and 609 Squadron RAF on a Ramrod mission in the Rouen area engaged Fw 190s and in subsequent combats claimed no fewer than 12-1-2 of them shot down without loss. According to the Aces High by Christopher Shores and Clive Williams their opponents were from JG 2 and this unit has lost at least 6 pilots on this date. Does anybody have the information about JG 2 casualties (usual pilot and aircraft details) sustained on 30 January 1944? Many thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

According to Thomas' and Shores' The Typhoon & Tempest Story (1988) the losses were: III./JG 2 lost at least 4 Fw 190s, Stab/JG 2 Hptm Fritz Edelmann and 10./JG 2 Hptm Bernhard Schenkbier.
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Re: JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

JG 2 lost 4 Fw 190s in the Creil/Beaumont/Senlis area which resulted in pilot casualties. 198 Sqn claimed 9 destroyed, one probable and two damaged, 609 destroyed. Do day if you want more details but looks like there was way overclaiming
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Re: JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

The List I have shows Hpt Bernhard Schenkbier + 10/JG2 Fw190 A-6 470036 LK Creil at 1250 hrs. - Lt. Willi Linnhoff + 9/JG2 Fw190 A-6 530902 LK 1300hrs at Beaumont,- Uffz Otto Fischer + 11/JG2 LK at 1250 hrs by Beaumont,- Hpt Fritz Edelmann + Stab Fw190 A-7/R6 430475 LK Senlis. Other aircraft may have been shot down with pilot surviving,

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Re: JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

Juha, Chris and Brian,

Many thanks for your information that are highly appreciated indeed.

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Re: JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

The summarische Verlustmeldungen show five total losses of JG2 due to aerial combat on January 30th, 1944, two from Stab/JG2 and three from III./JG2.

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Re: JG 2 losses to Typhoons, 30 January 1944

Dear Mr. Prien,

Many thanks for your additional comments. It certainly helps.

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