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Old 16th February 2018, 13:55
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Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

Good afternoon Gentlemen,

I'm a passionate collector of top-aces-by-plane.
However, some aircraft did not manage to get included in my collection.
The following aircraft had top pilots who did not achieve 5 or more kills in that aircraft for the various reason indicated:
  • Blackburn Skua: William Lucy, 3,33 [0+7sh] kills
  • Bristol Blenheim: Reginald Peacock, 3,67 [3+2sh] kills
  • Cant Z.506: Pietro Bonannini, at least 5 kills as gunner
  • Dornier Do 24: Günther Weisshuhn, 13 (dubious)
  • Fairey Firefly: John Stott, 3,5 [2+3sh] kills
  • Gloster Sea Gladiator: Charles Keighly-Peach, 3,5 [3+1sh] + 1 probable
  • Grumman Avenger: Charles Henderson, 4 + 1 probable
  • Hawker Sea Hurricane: Rupert Brabner, 4,5 [4+1sh] and Richard Cork, 4,25 [4+1sh]
  • Kawasaki Ki-100: Jiro Asano, 3-10 kills
  • Mitsubishi F1M: Masaji Nioshiwaki, 3-5 kills
  • Polikarpov I-15bis: Georgi Agafonov, Pjotr Bityutski, Vassili Yefremov, Aleksandr Mironenko und Pjotr Petrov variously pronounced aces of that type, not valid according to Mikhail Bykov, Liu Shi-Sheng 3+7sh kills adding up to a value of less than 5
  • Reggiane Re.2000: Imre Panczel, 4-5
  • Reggiane Re.2005: Vittorio Minguzzi 3,08 [2+4sh] and Giulio Torresi 4+3sh
  • Supermarine Seafire: Richard Reynolds, 3,5 [2+3sh]
  • Vickers Wellington: John Robertson, 12 as gunner (dubious)
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Michael
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Old 19th June 2018, 11:02
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

Good morning,

I have to add the Lockheed Ventura.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=51252

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Old 3rd May 2019, 15:33
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

...who's the Westland Whirlwind top scorer ?
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

I wonder who was the top scoring German pilot of Arado Ar-196 floatplane. The Ar-196 had seen plenty of air to air combat during WWII.

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Old 2nd July 2019, 14:17
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

Hello Edward,

oh that would be interesting.
You think the Ar 196 has shot something down ?

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Old 3rd July 2019, 10:33
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

see the personal account "Eine Arado Ar 196 gegen zehn Spitfire" by a Hptm Wiegmink of 1./196 in " Bordflieger im Einsatz "
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

Excuse me I meant to say that the Beaufighter was shot down (destroyed) by one of Prinz Eugen's Ar-196 floatplanes.

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Old 5th July 2019, 21:51
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

Hello Edward,

that's astonishing because a Beaufighter is more pugnacious than an Ar 196, isn't it ?

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Old 17th July 2019, 08:30
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Dear Michael,

Try looking at FalkEins and you will find some more information about the Arado Ar-196 being used in combat.
Brief Example from FalkEins:"..a bold feat of arms by our Arado crews-an Arado 196 recce Staffel on Crete claim four Beaufighters shot down."
Unfortunately as I said before,no information on who were to top-scoring pilots of the Arado Ar-196s. If there would be a few aces,great.

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Old 17th July 2019, 17:13
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Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace

Here's another one, though a probable:

According to the book 'Vliegvelden in Oorlogstijd' an Ar 196 crew was credited with a Stirling victory on the 1st of July 1941.
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