Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 26th March 2023, 09:59
focusfocus focusfocus is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,055
focusfocus is on a distinguished road
Cool GCI/5 victory

Hello

18/03/44
Ju.88 shot down by M.Rouquette,Cne Lacombe,Lt.Rabusson of Cap Noé/Habibas Islands (Algeria)

What Ju.88 is it?...I think reconnaissance unit?
Nothing in MAW vol.4

Michel
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26th March 2023, 10:55
Trendle's Avatar
Trendle Trendle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Germany
Posts: 110
Trendle will become famous soon enough
Re: GCI/5 victory

Good Morning Michel,

1.(F)/33 / Junkers Ju 88 D-1 / # 430744 / F6 + TL / Wheather reconnaissance flight / Shot down by three P-39 Airacobras - GC 3/6 Roussillon / Ditching in the Mediterranean Sea northwest of Oran - Algeria / Unteroffizier Gerhard Miehe (P) + Leutnant Peter Eilers + Obergefreiter Walter Werner + Wd.Insp. Walter Lauffer - all MIA

Nice Sunday

Fred
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26th March 2023, 11:49
focusfocus focusfocus is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,055
focusfocus is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up Re: GCI/5 victory

Thank you Fred.
Best Regards
Michel
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 26th March 2023, 12:14
Stig Jarlevik Stig Jarlevik is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,825
Stig Jarlevik will become famous soon enough
Re: GCI/5 victory

Hi Fred

That is not the claim Michel is asking about.
On page 161 of your book you list two claims by the French and while you quote the second (ca 17.00H),
Michel asks for the first one at 07.00H.

Since no one but you list that second claim by GC 3/6 (no pilots known) I wonder from where you got that
detail?

Is the time of loss of the Ju 88 D known?

Cheers
Stig
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 26th March 2023, 13:07
keith A keith A is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,845
keith A is on a distinguished road
Re: GCI/5 victory

Decot lists the victory by pilots of "Roussillon" (no groupe number). But does not identify a second victory. Two of my sources identify Rouquette and his section as pilots of GCI/5. Therefore I think it's one victory..but GCIII/6 or GCI/5?

K
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 26th March 2023, 13:15
keith A keith A is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,845
keith A is on a distinguished road
Re: GCI/5 victory

I can't find any victory for GCIII/6 in March 1944. Only one in January 1944.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 26th March 2023, 15:17
Stig Jarlevik Stig Jarlevik is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,825
Stig Jarlevik will become famous soon enough
Re: GCI/5 victory

While I don't know who Decot is I also think we may talk about only one claim here....

Cheers
Stig
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26th March 2023, 16:16
keith A keith A is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,845
keith A is on a distinguished road
Re: GCI/5 victory

The brothers Decot (Daniel and Alain) have written an exceptional set of FAF books. Lots of combat reports, lots of detail. Well worth the price (I thought it was a lot before I bought the Gillet books!).

They may have erred on this occasion but I still use the sources with confidence.

K
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26th March 2023, 17:22
focusfocus focusfocus is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,055
focusfocus is on a distinguished road
Question Re: GCI/5 victory

Guys,you lost me! what do I do with "my" Ju.88?
Victim of the GCI/5 ?
Michel
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 26th March 2023, 20:51
keith A keith A is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,845
keith A is on a distinguished road
Re: GCI/5 victory

Michel I venture that it is a victory for GCI/5 not GCIII/6. The claimants are all GCI/5 therefore the victory credited to these pilots as pilots of Groupe "Roussillon" is wrong,

Looking for a second victory on this date requires a second victory being found...anywhere. Which we haven't found...anywhere.... the word "anywhere" keeps recurring. Also is there a record with GCIII/6 claiming a victory, on this date, with a previously unnamed list of claimants?

I believe it's one victory by GCI/5.

K
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
In hindsight, who was the top day scorer? Broncazonk Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 59 18th June 2021 09:01
Oberleutnant Dieter Meister Leo Etgen Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 33 1st January 2019 17:25
Hartmann's victims Johannes Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 19 30th September 2018 18:14
Jurgen Harder keith A Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 3 15th April 2013 00:45
Rudolf Mueller: claims vs actual 'kills' Sanchez Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 26 21st December 2007 15:17


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net