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Old 14th October 2014, 08:01
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eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Hi,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-LOT-OF-...item3ce9f0c7d5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ger...item27ed392f8c

Enjoy it.

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Old 14th October 2014, 13:38
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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Hi Franck,
great finds - the second set of photos shows Me 262 TS+MB and Fw 190 TF+LL in Oberwiesenfeld, Munich.
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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Dear ChristianK,

I think the Me 262 might be T9 rather than TS. While the photo says Munich, which I would have assumed meant Munich-Riem, you say otherwise. From where do you get your information?

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Old 14th October 2014, 16:30
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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Hi Richard,
the location is verified by comparison of about 30 war- and peacetime photos of Oberwiesenfeld and is a hundred percent correct.

Another photo of this Me 262 can be found in the old Luftwaffe Verband issue 36. I've attached it for you - and you are even correct, it could be "T9" instead of "TS", but there were such a lot of Bf 109s and Bf 110s coded "TS+MB" found at Schleißheim, which is very close to Oberwiesenfeld, that it is very likely that our Me 262 originally belonged to that bunch (TS+MB is not a Stammkennzeichen but some kind of an universal marking allocated to Technische Schule - Motor, based at Schleißheim. Also see this thread: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=28005).

There is one other photo showing a part of this Me 262s tail, but sadly, no Werknummer can be seen.

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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Dear ChristianK,

Thank you for your explanation. So, TS+MB is not a factory code, but actually a training unit code. Very interesting.

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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Hi Guys,

I hope you seen on the Me262 taken at Wright-Field the back part of the engines have been mounted in front, and the contrary. On both... And there is a large Messerchmitt painted on left fuselage side.
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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Dear Franck,

I think that is the cover for the Riedel starter, although it is not properly mounted. That, or it is a fake cover. The tail bullet has no center hole for the pull starter.

Thanks for pointing out the word "Messerschmitt". I'd completely missed it. I don't recall seeing any other photo showing this.

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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

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Dear Franck,

I think that is the cover for the Riedel starter, although it is not properly mounted. That, or it is a fake cover...
Richard
Dear Richard,
You're right indeed. it's just completly outside ..
As for me concerning that writing....
I just did check, it is on one different view , taken at the same place (though it's difficult to say it's the same just place because of the US wooden posts), though unreadable AND the Riedel starter is outside, like on that last photo.

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Re: eBay: Some Me 262s 14/10

Hello everyone,

Regarding Frank’s second photo in Post#1 (Fw190A-4, WNr.142522, TF+LL 4, marked as found in “Munich”), I have other photographs of this distinctive aircraft, as well as other similarly-marked Fw190A-4s. Multiple sources indicate that these aircraft were abandoned at Straubing.

Clarification of the correct location will be welcome.

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