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Old 20th September 2019, 18:59
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Axis Fighter unit responsible for Allied losses December 2,1943

On December 2,1943, the 82nd FG lost two P-38s to Bf109s while on a B24 escort mission to the Bolzano Marshalling Yard. As far as I know, no Axis unit has been identified as being responssible. MAW4 does not have any further information.
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Old 20th September 2019, 23:06
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Re: Axis Fighter unit responsible for Allied losses December 2,1943

Hello,

according to JFV 11/II on 2 Dec 1943 31 Bf 109 of III./JG 53 encountered about 40-50 P-38 escort fighters southeast of Venezia. The Stab III./JG 53 claimed three P-38 30 km southeast of Venezia:
12.06 Maj Franz Götz (48.)
12.06 Lt Johannes Böhm (1.)
12.07 Lt Hans-Dieter Heinecke (1.).

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Old 21st September 2019, 05:34
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Re: Axis Fighter unit responsible for Allied losses December 2,1943

Leo, Thanks for the information. I wonder why this was not specified in MAW4?
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Old 21st September 2019, 09:27
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Hi

Because it involves a strategic raid, thus will be covered in Vol 6. Almost no strategic raids from the formation of the 15th Air Force are mentioned at all in Volume IV and wont be in Vol 5. ( exceptions being raids into the Aegean and Greece where they relate to Aegean matters.

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