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Old 17th October 2019, 07:27
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Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

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I am looking for the circumstances of Sergeant Allignol's death on June 22, 1942 while he was posted at No. 5 (Pilots) Advanced Flying Unit (former No 5 Service Training Flying School RAF).
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Old 17th October 2019, 10:02
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Hello,

See: http://rafcommands.com/forum/showthr...rmen-22-6-1942

Royal Air Force College Master II DK985, Stalled on approach and hit ground Barkston LG, 22.6.1942.

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Old 17th October 2019, 10:26
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Hello Col
Thanks a lot. It is nice because it gives me the aircraft type and number.
I will continue to search for the circumstance.
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Old 17th October 2019, 15:35
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Franck

According to Colin Cummins in his Clipped Wings vol 1

"The pilot mishandled the controls by not lowering the flaps properly and setting the incorrect pitch on the propeller. During the latter stages of the approach to land, the aircraft stalled and crashed.
Flight Sergeant Raymond Henri Allignol 31 years old FFAF killed"

I don't know why he trained with the RAF College and not the unit you give.
Probably posted for some reason.

The Master DK985 only served with RAFC having been delivered to Cranwell 9 March 1942. At the time of its demise it had flown a total of 145:20 hours.

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Old 17th October 2019, 16:56
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Hello Stig
Thank's for the new info.
As fare as I know, Raymond Allignol was awarded with a civilian pilote license on April, 1938. He became military pilot in March, 1940.
May be he was posted at RAF college as flying instructor due to his knowledge or as officer cadet.

No 5 Service Training Flying School is the unit which is reported by the French "Role of Honor" website "Mémoire des Hommes". This unit was disbanded in April, 1942.

The place where he crashed is given as Cranwell near Barston (Lincolnshire) by the same website.

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Old 17th October 2019, 17:48
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Franck

From the way he treated the Master during landing, it does not sound like he was an instructor. Sounds more like he was on his first solo flight or something similar, having received far too few conversion hours.
To be able to set correct flaps and propeller pitch is very basic when it comes to flying.

Was he actually a fully trained military pilot when he came to England? If he had joined the Armée de l'Air in March 1940 it is even possible he hadn't started any flight training by May and did not receive any such training until he came to Britain.

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Old 19th October 2019, 10:25
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Hello Stig
I don't know if he was a full trained pilote.. But as you, I think also that was not the case.

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Old 20th October 2019, 22:53
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Hi Franck

According to the ORB of Cranwell (Air 29/669) Course n°38 begins on 28 may 1942 with 4 Free French Officer and 11 Free French.

On 22 june 1942 F/Sgt Allignol Free French pupil killed as a result of a flying accident

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Old 21st October 2019, 13:19
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Re: Sergeant (Free French) Raymond Allignol

Hi Bertrand
Thanks the new info which will help me.
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