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Old 14th October 2019, 19:21
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Re: Amiot no 93 GB I/34 October 1939

Well maximal flying endurance of Amiot 143 was approx. 4-5 hours so I don`t think it was lost in the early hours of 17.10.39. Anyway I did not find yet any flak or another report concerning this a/c. Perhaps it was not victim of flak?
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Old 15th October 2019, 00:19
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Re: Amiot no 93 GB I/34 October 1939

Location in which the aircraft was shot down (Burgfarrnbach) was too far away from the target area and from the border so the crew most probably had already lost their bearings. It also explains why the aircraft was still over German airspace in the early hours of 17th.
I think relevant claim is absent in AOK 1 records because Burgfarrnbach was most probably outside AOK 1 area of operations
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Old 7th November 2019, 18:26
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Small corrections: Amiot no 93 GB I/34 October 1939

Sorry for a few typos (see below). I have to add that when writing here online in English I Always see how my text is subjected to automatic corrections, the "correct spelling" being French. Some words suddenly begin with a capital, like "Always" in the preceding sentence. Sometimes you forget to correct all the nonsense. Here two corrections:

Stig: Since I don't have any French order of Battle for Sep 1939 it seems these Escadre were gone on 10 May 1940 since Jean Liron and Raymond Danel states the wings were called Groupement de Chasse, Bombardement etc followed by a number. For instance GB I/34 belonged to Groupement de Bombardement No 9. No mentioning of any wing with number 34.

- I can't remember if this was done before or shortly after the German onslaught. These "groupemants" were large pools of various units, presumably to facilitate the engagement of numerous bombers or fighters, or both (fighters escorting bombers) for the same mission. All nuits still existed as before and a few new ones were created. Before that these various units could have "belonged" to several different sectors, regions, HQs etc. Afterwards they all were the responsibility of the same HQ and general(s). They resembled German "Luftflotten" (Air Fleets) like Luftflotte 2 and 3.

1. Please read groupements not groupemants. I am responsible for this typing error.

2. The system here Always changes "units" and makes a "nuits" instead (nights). This is quite unnerving. Here we got Always again instead of always (I had to correct the last one before the brackets, it got an automatic A too).

Many words are adorned with a capital initial and it's quite unpredictable. Sometimes English words are Simply (see?) replaced with French words including with the letter é.

Clearly I (or we all) should write offline only to avoid these automatic "corrections" but sometimes we're in a hurry or whatever. I noticed that other authors of posts here are victims of these "corrections" too.

I apologise but luckily it's easy to detect the wrong corrections when reading.

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