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Old 8th June 2017, 10:49
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Welter's Me 262 A-1a

According to Gebhard Aders, K. Welter was given (by whom?) a FuG 218-equipped Me 262 A-1a WNr. 130 056 - probably in mid-October 1944.
AFAIK there never was such a Werknummer.
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Re: Welter's Me 262 A-1a

Hi Chris,

firstly, the jet was Me262 V2 Werke Nummer 170056 - often photographed with the radar aerial installation.

Secondly, IMHO it is worth verifying what Gebhard Aders wrote in the 1970s - what is the evidence that Welter "was given" this aircraft, or that he flew any Me262 in October 1944?

The only documentary evidence I have seen is that Welter flew (probably) Werke Nummer 170095 KD+EA at Rechlin-Lärz, starting in November 1944. This Me262 began to be fitted with night-flying instruments/equipment at the end of October 1944 ("Einbau v. Zusatzbeleuchtung für Nachtflug u. Stellungsanseige für Landeklappen"). In the second half of November 1944, Welter made a night-time flight (his first night flight in the Me262?) in preparation for operational flying ("Nachtflug als Einsatzvorbereitung (Oblt. Welter) wurde durchgeführt. Flugzeug ist nachteinsatz-klar.”). 170095 was not fitted with radar. (Source: BArch RL 36/86)

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Re: Welter's Me 262 A-1a

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what is the evidence that Welter "was given" this aircraft, or that he flew any Me262 in October 1944?
Hi Rod!
Thanks for your response.
To answer your question, I'd say look here:
http://www.chronicles-of-the-luftwaf.../10NJG11-1.jpg
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Re: Welter's Me 262 A-1a

Hi Chris,

this memo is well-known and does not constitute evidence per see. Welter wrote this memo after the war to give to the British Air Ministry team who interrogated him in Schleswig-Holstein.

Welter appears to have made a number of statements to impress his captors, and there is no other evidence to support his statement in the memo that he flew the Me262 at Rechlin-Lärz from the middle of September 1944 onwards. Contemporary documentary evidence still has him flying piston-engined fighters with 10./JG300 at this time, and the weekly Rechlin-Lärz reports contained in BArch RL 36/86 make no mention of any night-time testing of the Me262 or Welter flying the Me262 in September 1944.

I would love to be proven wrong, but have yet to see evidence other than Welter's post-war memo.

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