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Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
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CX/MSS/T121/12 VL 8286 SOUTH EUROPE Signed AMC 222 ((Treviso) to AMC Neuburg/Donau Stamped 1130/10/3: 17 Re 2002, Works Nos. — 1250, 1236, 1255, 1233, 1252, 1181, 1235, 1221, 1143, 1232, 1229, 1237, 1179, 1166, 1134, 1126, 1118, left 1055 to 1109 CX/MSS/T257/2/121 Memorandum of 26/7, source’s copy neither addressed nor signed+ No crews are to be sent off to fetch Re 2002, as crews are already in Italy. NOTE: 1) Source believes that this was from Fliegerzieldiv. to Geschwader Bongart. 2) For mention of 35 Re 2002 as fighter bombers by Geschwader Bongart on 10/7, see T243/10 and notes. 0517/27/7/44Z CX/MSS/T263/7 XL 4296 From 252 (Milan-Turin-Genoa area) on 31/7 to AMC 264 F ((Lyons)): 6 Re 2002, W.Nr. 5217, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25 left from 1105 to 1108 hours. NOTE: Reference by Geschwader Bongart to use of Re 2002 as fighter bombers in T243/10 and collection of these a/c from Italy in T257/121. |
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Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
Enclosed some info on Re 2002 etc. No guarantee of its reliability.
Matti |
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Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
Thank you very much Nick, Matti and Remi for the very interesting and useful information.
In the meanwhile I managed to access the National Archives and found two of the messages mentioned by Nick, but I have two doubts: - how can I decrypt the date ? The day should be the last 2 digits before "Z" but what about the attached 011238Z/8/44 --> ??/8/44. - in both messages (one is attached) no Werk-Nr. is actually mentioned. @Nick are they mentioned in other messages ? |
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Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
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This is the time that the deciphered message was issued by the British, not the time the Germans sent the original. What you have got from the National Archives comes from the DEFE 3/ series of files (“Main series of reports to Allied Commands”) which are summaries of the fuller information found in files in the HW 5/ series, which I quoted from. DEFE 3/ files have been digitised, HW 5/ files have not. These points and many more are covered in an article on my website, “Using ULTRA for Luftwaffe Research”: http://www.ghostbombers.com/Ultra/ultra_01.html |
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Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
I'd like to ask your help to identify the following LW pilots. They picked up or tested the RE2002 in Italy in late 1943 or in 1944.
Fw/Ofw: - Lorenz - Froeh - Kuchler - Mazurech - Zumkeller - Nolfe - Hiltl or Hilt - Frankrone - Graf - Maschtkowski - Hopfengaertner - Bohrmann - Paolus - Gazllei - Mater - Rang Offz: - Lt. Schuster - Lt. Alt Thank you in advance |
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