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B17G's NMF ?
Hello,
Am seeking information on the NMF B17G a/c. I understand that the production run at Boeing, ended the camouflage on the a/c from B17G -35 - BO with 42-32044 being the first NMF a/c, is this correct ? Also At Dallas did the camouflage a/c end with the start of B17G -35-DL 42-106984 being the first NMF a/c ? And At Vega did the NMF a/c begin with B17G-20-VE 42-97635, during or at the end of the production ? I assume that ALL B17's after these batches were NMF ? Thanks Alex |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Hi Alex. These are the mods to B-17 production including deletion of camouflage; note the references to "silver" in the plane names of the unpainted ones.
Regards Nick Last edited by Buckeye30; 9th May 2019 at 22:27. |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Hello Nick,
Happy New Year and Thank you for the attachment. Alex |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Sorry Alex....I did these lists some years ago based on Boeing records and Roger Freeman's researches---I've found that Vega did delete camo. in Block 15-VE but not at the beginning; I don't know why 42-97436 was named "Silver Meteor" if indeed it was but certainly 42-97469 ( "Busy Baby" 379BG) and 42-97470 ( "Oh Kay" 457BG) were camouflaged as there are photos.
Obviously they were unpainted at the factory somewhere in this block. I'll check some more photos when possible. I really should get out more ! Nick |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Thank you Nick,
I look forward to your next update. Alex |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Alex. I now think the first unpainted VEGA B-17G was the last G-15-VE in the block, 42-97535 ( "Bouncing Betty II" 457BG) which was bare metal; the previous B-17G 42-97534 was camouflaged ( "Patches" a PFF H2X originally 482BG then 413BS --with 303's triangle "C" ---then 452BG). 42-97532 ( 482 PFF) was also OD / NG ( to 305BG as JJ-V with plain white triangle).
The subsequent block was G-20-VE, the first being 42-97536 ( "Fargo Express 463BG) this and the following planes were unpainted. So this block apparently unpainted. Hope this makes sense. Nick Last edited by Buckeye30; 3rd January 2018 at 15:05. Reason: spelling |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Thank you Nick,
This is a great help to my search for a B17 of the 379th BG. As it will I hope eliminate many in the list I have available to me. Alex |
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Re: B17G's NMF ?
Alex. Just for reference the 2nd and 3rd B-17Gs in Block 20-VE were both unpainted.
42-97537 ( 457BG " Chicken Ship") 42-97538 ( 447BG "Dallas Dottie" ). There is a photo of 42-97555 MZ-F a PFF from the 413BS from this block in camouflage but I'm sure it's been painted for some reason considering the serial style and non-standard colour division, top and bottom. Nick |
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