Please help to identify this part

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by schwarze-man

Hi Rolfeb. The mystery is not really solved yet. The part 109.412-0101 is also listed in the Bf109G Ersatzteilliste and so, can be from a later Bf109G. However, if you give the full 601 component number that you have, I can see where that fits into the situation for you. Cheers

SM

Hi sm, thanks a lot for your feedback.
Here the details I can still read:
601 104-001 m
?205.4. VDM in a triangle V
?? 69 41 52
That’s all I can identify.
Would be great if this helps.
Thanks in advance
Rolf

[schwarze-man]

Hi Rolf. Have you got the complete part, this is the Crankcase! I have the reference for the 9-601.104-001 this is the Kurbelgehause (crankcase) for the DB601E motor and would possibly indicate a Bf109F3/4.
The number ?205.4 would be the material spec 3205.4 of the case and the VDM badge or trademark would show that it was cast at a VDM works.
I hope that is useful, a picture of the part would be interesting! Cheers

SM

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Indeed, we are all here to learn and for me, whose knowledge of aircraft parts is NIL, I have Always learned on this kind of threads.
Some of you are really experten on that field, so please do be patient with those who are not, specially regarding scales, how to post the pictures, etc.
Not very many of us did Aircraft Investigation Courses or are familiar with this kind of procedures, not are familiar with the GRADE system of radius to illustrate the main impact and a possible area of dispersing of fragments, etc...
Bronc, Tomislav (and other experts on aircraft parts) you are real aces on your fields...Thanks for sharing your knowledge and patience with the rest of us...
ROLF, am sure with time you will find the true story behind those pieces of Messerschmitt you do have on your hands...Be patient too...help will come...
MATTI and other members may have a list of crashes around your area....so...the information will come...you can also dig on the nearby graves if there are "fallen" Luftwaffe pilots nearby...
An amazing thread again on this Fantastic Site. Congratulations for all.
A.

[Rolfeb]

Thanks a lot so far for your answers.
Would like to come back to my initial point and recap so far.
1. I was searching for a crash site where I expected to find parts of a Me 109 G-14.
2. Found some relics, especially a part of a DB 601 which led to the discussion if the crashed plane was a 109 F and not a G-14.
If it was a version F, is it possible it flew still with III./JG 53 in Nov. 44?
Eye witnesses believe the crash took place in Nov. 44.
Is it possible the plane belonged to a different unit?, but flew in Nov. 44?

To my knowledge the version F flew only until end of 42, correct.
Thanks in advance
Rolf

[Snautzer]

https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/i...f6061b1af.html

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Snautzer

https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/i...f6061b1af.html

Hi Snautzer,
Thanks for sending. I organised the meeting in 2016. Sommer was pilot of the III./JG 53 in 44 and shot down in a dog fight.
The unit was based in Donaueschingen-Süd. But this is a different story/crash
Thanks again
Rolf

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by Snautzer

https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/i...f6061b1af.html

Hi Snautzer,
Thanks for sending. I organised the meeting in 2016. Sommer was pilot of the III./JG 53 in 44 and shot down in a dog fight.
The unit was based in Donaueschingen-Süd. But this is a different story/crash
Thanks again
Rolf

[schwarze-man]

Hi Rolf. If the lever part and the Kurbelgehause part are from the same aircraft then it is pretty certain that it was Bf109F3 or F4 because the 601.104-001 part is a 601E component and that engine was fitted to that version of the 109 (and some early 109G prototypes). I believe that the 109F was still flying in the training role later in the war. Some specialists here will have information about that.
Any chance of a picture of the Kurbelgehause to enjoy? Cheers

SM

[Rolfeb]

Originally Posted by schwarze-man

Hi Rolf. If the lever part and the Kurbelgehause part are from the same aircraft then it is pretty certain that it was Bf109F3 or F4 because the 601.104 part is a 601E component and that engine was fitted to that version of the 109 (and some early 109G prototypes). I believe that the 109F was still flying in the training role later in the war. Some specialists here will have information about that.
Any chance of a picture of the Kurbelgehause to enjoy? Cheers

SM

Hi and thanks for your post.
Attached the part I found just a few days ago from the Kurbelgehäuse.
Cheers

[Snautzer]

And you made Broncs day, ruler and all :-]]