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Old 19th February 2020, 20:10
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Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

Dear all,

I am looking for information concerning FFS or units that operated those 3 trainer machines. I do not have clues to the year or period of time neither.

1- Bücker Bu 131, code DA+CM
An Arado Ar 76 (werk 0713) coded DA+BN was flown by FFS A/B 23 at Kaufbeuren...do not know though if DA+CM could have flown at the same FFS A/B 23...or if those machines were alloted independently of their codes...

2- Focke Wulf Fw 44, code D-EFUN

3- Klemm Kl 35B, code D-EFBV
(It seems from a previous thread that this machine was flown by the A/B-Lehrgang of I/JG 52).

I have tried at those two excellent sites, but got no further information though...

http://www.airhistory.org.uk/gy/reg_D-a5.html
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...unckWerner.htm

Any additional information regarding those machines, most welcomed.

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Old 19th February 2020, 21:50
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Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

DA+CM was a Fw 44G WNr. 477 with FFS A/B 110 until it's crash on 7.10.40.
D-EFUV was a Kl 25 WNr. 787 with DLV Bielefeld 1934 - 37
D-EFBV I have the same information as you.
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Old 20th February 2020, 02:48
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Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

Thanks Adriano & Gerhard
I have DA+CM with the same data as Gerhard but without the W/Nr. This Fw44 W/Nr is listed in the Stkz data-base as NB+ZP but this is clearly a typo/mistake. I do have this W/Nr as DA+ZM but with a ? So I believe that this also is a typo. So thanks to Gerhard for clearing up the anomaly.
The Fw44 - D-EFUN - Ihave as W/Nr.469 with FFS A Kaufbeuren - mid 1938 and Sch/FAR42 in mid 1939
Kl35B - D-EFBV - I have same information
I am not certain why Gerhard has given the KL25dVIIR - D-EFUV as this Registration was not part of the original question. But I have same information but thanks for sharing
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Old 20th February 2020, 14:29
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Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

Hi Adiano

D - EFUN / Fw 44 F / 469
DVS Neuruppin?, 11.35 (0%) lost orientation, emergency landing
FFS B Magdeburg, 21-22.05.37 (Magdeburg-Ost)

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Old 20th February 2020, 15:03
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Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

Jo, Tom and Gerhard Stemmer,

First of all: MY GRATITUDE to you all for the information I was looking for (werknummer and Training Units that those machines served).

It is amazing how those machines were switched to one School than to another one, like D-EFUN...I originally thought that they would stay with the same school until being damaged, etc.

Regarding DA+CM and it's crash on the 7th October 1940. Gerhard Stemmer, would you have the name and rank of the Student? Was he flying with a Flying Instructor or alone? What was the cause of the crash? Disorientation whilst doing Aerobatics? Collision in flight? Bad Weather?

MY immense GRATITUDE to you all for those information.

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Old 20th February 2020, 15:47
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The DA+CM crashed at Stubendorf due to technical problems resulting to 70% damage. The crew was safe and is not reported.
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Old 20th February 2020, 16:10
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Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

Thank you Gerhard!

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Old 20th February 2020, 18:36
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Re: Seeking information about Luftwaffe trainer aircrafts x 3

#3 - Tom, I have much the same information as you on the Fw44 WNr.477. My source was the Schulen losses, specifically BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/781, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.12 & p.43.
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