Two losses from the mediterranean theatre - please help!

[bakerman]

Can anyone tell me details (crewman,plane,markings, cause of loss etc.) for the losses of these two successful recon-crews, both in the mediterranean area:

1.) Major HELMUT ORLOWSKI, Kommandeur Aufkl.Gr. 122, lost at sea near Pescara/Italy on 08.11.43. Crew still missing?

2.) Lt. Alfred Gemsjäger/ Lt. Andreas Finke, 6.(F)/122, crashed near Brescia in northern Italy on 02.09.1944. There graves are now in Costermano on the german war graves cemetary.

Was the plane from the last one the following: Ju188D-2, "F6+BP", lost 1.9.44 near Cremona?

greeetings,
bakerman.

[David Pausey]

8-11-43
Stab(F)/122 Ju88D-1 W.Nr 430593 4U+UH
MajorHelmutOrlowski,
Hptm Karl-Heniz Hibiy,
Ofw Abert Kelbsch All killed.
NE of Pescara Jäger
This was an aircraft from 1(F)./123. The following claim relates to this loss – 8 Nov 43; 1/Lt Clarence F. Musgrave; 65th F.S. 57th F.G. 1-Ju88; 1m off Pescara.

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by bakerman

Can anyone tell me details (crewman,plane,markings, cause of loss etc.) for the losses of these two successful recon-crews, both in the mediterranean area:

1.) Major HELMUT ORLOWSKI, Kommandeur Aufkl.Gr. 122, lost at sea near Pescara/Italy on 08.11.43. Crew still missing?

2.) Lt. Alfred Gemsjäger/ Lt. Andreas Finke, 6.(F)/122, crashed near Brescia in northern Italy on 02.09.1944. There graves are now in Costermano on the german war graves cemetary.

Was the plane from the last one the following: Ju188D-2, "F6+BP", lost 1.9.44 near Cremona?

greeetings,
bakerman.

Orlowski was reportedly brought down by two P-38s.

With the second of these, I always had the date as 2 September 1944 and I understood the cause to be an accident.

[Chris Goss]

Gemsjaeger & Finke (with Ofw Kurt Roeschmann) were lost in a Ju 188 D-2, F6+BP Wk Nr 150234 north of the town of Cremona on 2 Sep 44

[maxjvb]

the exactly crash point is Casalbuttano (Cremona)