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Old 25th April 2012, 20:58
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Here are some comments by one of the staffers who restored the NASM HE-219 when looking at these photos:.

The serial number plate will be a triangle...

I see many recognizable bits and pieces…..

Particularly interested in the bits of blue cable. That’s the radar coax… Might end in the remnants of a mast?

The German wiring is AMAZING…. looks brand new!

Somewhere in the mess of the cockpit is an explosive charge as well. Left side, by the pilots knee. Trigger/fuse for it was on the cockpit wall below the canopy rail. Don't know if it is still an issue.

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Old 25th April 2012, 21:57
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

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Hi

Is there anyone who can tell what the numbers mean in row 11,
picture 4 and 5 ??

and from which part of the plane ??

Greetings
Kim C
Almost cerainly part of the Werke Nummer. Seems to include ...3116

Does this number match He 219 Werke Nummer batches?

This is typical of Luftwaffe aircraft and the standard style and pattern of painted Werke Nummers on the inside of panels.
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Old 25th April 2012, 22:38
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Hello Remi, Kim and Andy

Remi: 210901 was the first of a small batch of Rostock produced He219's, the last being Wnr. 210905 (in that batch). The next Rostock He219's were also A-0's with Werkenummer 2111xx. Then the A-2 came, starting with Wnr. 290001 and so on...

Kim: I think we are looking to a sort of fuel tank, see the hoses on the upper side. I will check my extensive He219 compendium with drawings and let you know soon

Andy: I am sorry to disappoint you but there was no He219 Werkenummer ending with 3116, perhaps a parts number but must check that either in the Ersatzteilliste

The NASM comments about the triangular Werkenummer tag of the whole aircraft has been discussed before, it could be found in the rear section of the aircraft, just after the Kärcher heater but unfortunately, the tail section has not been traced yet.

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Old 25th April 2012, 23:06
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Marcel

I will bow to your undisputed knowledge of the He 219!

However, that painted number is identical in every respect to the painted W.Nr found on the inside of panels/equipment in most Luftwaffe aircraft of the period. Just unfortunate it isn't the number we are looking for after all.

I do not know if Steve Polyak has a He 219 data plate in his collection (possibly he bought one from me some years back??) but I'm sure he will post here if he has. The triangular plate was typical on a number of types; do we know if the 219 plates were steel or alloy? Some I have seen were steel.
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Old 25th April 2012, 23:24
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

Using Ju 88 data as comparision:
Re NASM info. Triangular plate in tail was Auxiliary Plate, "standard Luftwaffe" from year 1941. This was in case of airframe was burned to ashes, this could be used in verifying the wreck. Usually an main dataplate was somewhere up front, on or near cockpit, do not know if this applied also to He 219.
Number "3116" and other faint letters seem grade standard alumin plate stencils. Best info yet is from flap plate. Anyone know what the CTO stood for? 707 maybe inspector stamp, if not might be part/line number serial (part serial).

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Old 26th April 2012, 00:34
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

I also see you have the mutterkompass.

I have often seen these with the aircraft W.Nr painted in black onto the grey body. Worth a look??

The radio tuning dials of the Fug radio sets (what did the He 219 have?) also often had them stamped into the metal of the dial.
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Old 26th April 2012, 06:46
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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

"SES/Jörn: we really should try to find more on the exploits of the I./NJG 3 in Denmark (shouldn't you already have done so) because it seems more and more that this He219 loss occurred exactly in the time span between the I./NJG 3 receiving their first He219's and the 7 He219's found at Grove after VE-Day"

Hi Marcel.

I have made extensive research into this matter, but hav'nt found a trace of a He 219 loss in the hands of I/NJG 3.

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Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!

A 097 was in Flensburg late january , beg. of february, probably 190097...

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A 097 was in Flensburg late january , beg. of february, probably 190097...

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Belonged to I/NJG 1.

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Old 26th April 2012, 09:59
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Hi

Andy.
Good idea to look for the number at the mother compass. We will look for it as soon as possible!

Are there others in this forum who have ideas where we should look for numbers, you can see what we have of the plane in the pictures.

Tonight there will come more pictures from photo camere 2,
maybe there are new details.

Greetings
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