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Old 29th May 2021, 00:46
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Re: Lysander loss - German aircraft info needed.

Hello all, can anyone help on details of the German aircraft that shot down a 13 Sqn Lysander. Details are:

Serial: L4812
Lost: 21/05/1940
Flight Lieutenant (Pilot) Richard H.N. Graham, RAF 25066, 13 Sqdn., age 34, 21/05/1940, St. Martin-au-Laert Churchyard, F
Pilot Officer (Air Gnr.) Reginald E.C. Butterworth , RAFVR 77531, 13 Sqdn., age 33, 21/05/1940, St. Martin-au-Laert Churchyard, F
Took off from Clairmarais. Shot down over St. Omer and crashed in St. Martin-au-Laërt.
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Re: Lysander loss - German aircraft info needed.

Flak?
The other two Lysanders (4 Squadron) shot down that day do have possible matches either by JG 2 or JG 77....but not this 13 Squadron machine.

See "The Battle of France then and Now, pg. 339, by Dr. Peter D. Cornwell" (one of the most fantastic books I do have)

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Lt Helmut Lohoff of 3./JG 77 claimed a Lysander south of Lille 0910 hrs; Lt Wolfgang Heinel of 4./JG 2 claimed another at 1510 hrs east of Boulogne. However, Uffz Georg Lehmann of 2./JG 1 claimed a Lysander time not recorded at St Pol
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Thanks guys, that is great information!

Hope you are well Chris!

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Re: Lysander loss - German aircraft info needed.

Good work Chris!

I am going to see if I can work out the time of the engagement, but looking at the map I am certain it will be the Uffz Georg Lehmann engagement. Forward one but any idea of the German aircraft details and if a pic exists of Lehmann?

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I can find 2 names, this might be the guy. Thoughts????

14501 Lehmann, Georg Uffz 7/JG-53 (France) Bf 109G-6/AS Werk # 166343 "White 14 + -" (lost 8/22/44) Fighter Operational Clasp KIA 22 August, 1944 during aerial combat with a P-38 near La Fere.
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Fw Georg Lehmann killed with 8./JG 27, formerly 2./JG 1, 30 Aug 40; from my book (no photos):

His first victory was with 2./JG 1on 21 May 1940. At the end of the Battle of France, his score stood at three and I./JG 1 became III./JG 27. His next victory was with 8./JG 27 on 19 July 1940 and he would get a fifth on 26 August 1940 but four days later, his Bf 109 E-4 Wk Nr 1623 was shot down off Dungeness. Lehmann was seen to bale out but on 1 September 1940 was reported killed; his body now lies in the German Military Cemetery at Bourdon
4. 19 Jul 40 Hurricane 1830 hrs Off Isle of Wight
5. 26 Aug 40 Hurricane 1730 hrs S.Winchester
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Re: Lysander loss - German aircraft info needed.

It looks like a afternoon sortie so my hunch from your research and info Chris, I assess it to be Lehmann that was the pilot who shot this Lysander down.

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