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Unidentified German Biplane
Hello,
Currently on ebay. And this is ? : https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-1-WK-Fl...EAAOSwbNte4gYG Regards, Clint |
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Re: Unidentified German Biplane
Hello
May be an Italian (SAML, Societa Anonimica mecanica lombarda, Monza) license built Aviatik B I with water cooled Salmson radial engine. Regards Jean |
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Re: Unidentified German Biplane
Good Morning Jean,
Thanks for the response. It is entirely possible that the machine is a SAML built Aviatik, but the long tailpiece seems to deviate significantly from any Aviatik I 've previously seen, whether from the parent company or SAML. Having said that it does look , to my eyes anyway, Aviatik like around the cockpit area. Regards, Clint |
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Re: Unidentified German Biplane
Apologies to All,
No big mystery after all. Its the Aviatik P 19 : http://www.airwar.ru/enc/law1/aviatikp19.html Regards, Clint |
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Re: Unidentified German Biplane
Hello
After digging a bit in the early years of Aviatik (then in Mulhouse, Alsace, but not France at this moment), the photo comes from a serie of shots taken for the factory. The same plane, under a slight different angle, appears in that document written by the local aéro-club, named Aviatik... : http://www.aviatik68.fr/aerobulle/4/5_oct.pdf So the plane could be the Aviatik P12, the first prototype of the biplane serie designed by Robert Wild Other early Aviatik pictures can be found here : http://victor.stoeffler.pagesperso-o...m/16photos.htm Regards Jean |
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Re: Unidentified German Biplane
Hello Jean,
Thanks for the interesting attachments. I look forward to working my way through the aerobulle attachment imminently. Interestingly both documents differ on the id of the aircraft with the first going with the P 12, while the Victor Stoeffler document identifies ithe machine as the P 19. One of the reason's I believe the aircraft is the P 19, apart from the link in my previous post in this thread is because Bruno Lange in Typenhandbuch Luftfahrttechnik P.49 specifically mentions a 130 ps Salmson engine as per the seller's description. If anyone has a photo of the Aviatik P 12 which differs from the machine shown, it would be interesting to see. Regards, Clint |
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Re: Unidentified German Biplane
Hello,
Currently on ebay is a photoo f an Aviatik aircraft with a Salmson engine at: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/AVIATION-Car...4AAOSw4A1fvmtc It appears to be the Aviatik P 19 in its final form, or so I assume given the number on the fuselage - a racing number pesumably. In any event the tail is different from that shown on the P 19 image shown in the link in the fourth post of this thread. Regards, Clint |
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