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Old 15th May 2018, 17:18
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Alois Bautz

Hi, I am looking for any information on Uffz Alois Bautz, a kriegsberichter of 3/Ln.Rgt.1. He is listed in the Luftwaffe loss reports as missing on 16th November 1940, but the report doesn't say where or in which aircraft he was flying with.
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Re: Alois Bautz

SROB48,

I have two crahes on 40-11-16
1./Kü.Fl.Gr.406 Crashed Roscanvel near Brest (F)
Pilot: Lt. Otto Emmerich KIA.

Luftdienstkommando 61 Crashed Le Bourget (F)
Pilot: Fw. Hans Schmidt KIA

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Re: Alois Bautz

Thank you for your reply Frans A.

I think we can rule out Luftdienstkommando 61. Here is the loss report: Heinkel He111E (1315). Transport flight. Engine fire and crashed attempting force-landing 3 Km north of Le Bourget, France. Fw. Hans Schmidt (FF), Gefr. Heinrich Nisse (Bw), Gefr. Horst Marschall (Bm) killed. Gefr. Erich Otekal (Bf) injured. Aircraft 90% damaged.

1/Kü.Fl.Gr.406.
Dornier Do26D (0795). Crashed during its first launch from the catapult ship 'Friesenland' off the coast of Brest, France, at night. Lt. Otto Emmerich (FF), Oblt. zur See Helmuth Groos (B), Fw. Erich Gruber (Bf), Fw. Heinz Hingst (Bm), Fw. Heinz Kantenberg (Bm) killed. Stab Fw. Christian Graf (Bf) missing. Aircraft P5+EH lost.

And there are 2 more possibilities:

5/KG3.
Dornier Do17Z (2894). Sortie to England. Crashed in the Channel 1.5 miles off Folkestone, Kent, 9.30am. Oblt. Bodo Buttker (FF), Fw. Horst Lemke (B), Obgefr. Erwin Herbert (Bf) and Gefr. Fritz Otte (Bs) all missing. Aircraft 5K+FN lost. Crew of 4 all named. (Not sure you could get a 5 crew man in a Dornier?), so probably not this one.

1/KG1.
Heinkel He111H (6897). Sortie to London. Shot down by AA fire and crashed at Palmtree Cross Roads, Woodnesborough, Kent, 8.50pm. Fw. Emil Mikeska (B), Uffz. Heinz Wendtland (Bf), Fw. Ludwig Mügge (Bm) killed. Lt. Hans-Georg Pramesberg (FF) missing. Aircraft V4+JH a write-off. This could be the other likely possibility. The Heinkel could carry 5 crew members, but only 4 are officially named. The 3 killed are now buried at Cannock Chase, but a 4th (and maybe a 5th?) remains missing. Also, I believe a Kriegsberichter could also double as a gunner? (could be wrong).

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Re: Alois Bautz

Several fails appear be in above post.

W.Nr. was not 0795, just 795 per original Dornier construction numbers range. And version was Do 26 C (Jumo 205 Ea) as D model conversion "not taken up".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_26 : See no mention of it here either.

http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/germany.html
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Re: Alois Bautz

Hello,

For what it is worth, the following is reported in Nigel Parker's, The Luftwaffe Crash Archive Vol.7, p.797:

16 February 1941

Lost on operations to Newhaven. Ff Uffz Alois Bautz, lost without trace. 3/Ln.Rgt. 1.

Hmmmm!

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Re: Alois Bautz

Thanks for your reply edNorth. I have updated my records accordingly.
I also note the quote from the book Luftwaffe in Colour 1939-42 is also wrong 'Lost during its first catapult launch" P.65. According to the site http://www.luftwaffe-zur-see.de/Seel...listen/Dornier 26.htm, it appears its first launch from the catapult ship 'Friesenland' was on 10th September 1940.
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